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.....I think a Christian marriage can be Homosexual.I mean didn't Jesus say that we should love our fellow Man 
.........personally ( as one who is made in God's likeness) I have discernment, I can read about the Bible historically, make my Judgements rationally, and reach my own decisions about Homosexuals or whatever, whomever....the Bible has been heavily edited, the oldest thing in the new testement is the letters of Paul, the oldest Gospel is that of Mark.the new testement has been re-shuffled many times to promote the viewpoint of different factions within Christianity.however my father in heaven has given me the ability to see that 
...nobody said Religion was easy, God created math and science and that isn't easy..sure it's easy to follow a dogma and shout phrases......and we would be unhappy if Islamics did it.but hey they believe in one God , and so do I ...we just have different names for him as do the Jews....Buddhists just think about the oneness with God.....at the end of the day the world is a cold and lonely place to live without someone to love, if it happens to be of the same sex, so what............I read this in a Sociology Book.a kid brought up by a syphalitic whore mother and a drunk father...who was he? Beethoven ) ..so go figure....I think that maybe the "one God " is the God of homosexuals as well 
"Half of all marriages fail" is not a bad approximation, Rich. Understand though that we're always behind time in measuring this. Only in retrospect can we do a "true" measure.Rich wrote: I recently read some stats in a recent study on this and the situation is not really that bad. It should really read 'half of new marriages fail', new being somewhat recent. If you take the total exisiting marriages and throw the 'half of new marriages' number into the mix it does not look that bleak. On top of that, the trend for the succuss of new marriages has improved and half no longer end in divorce. That is a statistic from the nineties.
I cannot remember the actual figures but will look around for them.
So like I said, not a bad approximation. And yes, this is not static.Number of marriages: 2,327,000
Marriage rate: 8.4 per 1,000 total population
Divorce rate: 4.0 per 1,000 population
(46 reporting States and D.C.)
Ian (and everyone else), George has requested that this discussion be moved to VSD and Bill started a thread there. Please, continue there.IJ wrote:Redbeard, don't worry too much about me. I've had death threats, hate mail, slander campaigns, and the occasional physical assault because of who I am, and this really isn't getting me bent out of shape. I just was stating I found some of your comments inappropriate.
You have stated that homosexual parents are bad for kids / society
You have stated we probably have genetic defects although that doesn't excuse our behavior
You have put us in the company of people who burn kids with cigarettes and others who harm society.
You've not supported these comments with any objective evidence, just as the data backing up your psychological theory is your limited personal observation. I've mostly limited myself to countering your attacks and since I've made no broad criticisms of your slice of society, their ability to raise children, or proposed limiting their civil rights etc, I'm not sure what facts you'd like me to provide. Let me know, I'll come up with something. I said little about the book you promoted, as well--and let citations make most of my case.
Here's my major point: you want to strip the rights of a segment of society away? You better come prepared with facts. I haven't seen any, yet. Awaiting response.
GEM makes a good point about thread morphing... and yeah the only way I see this related to marriage failure is that coercing people with one sexual orientation to try to live the life of someone of another sexual orientation is going to fail in a large way unless the person is lucky and falls more to the middle of the spectrum. IMHO.
