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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:29 pm

While these thoughts may flash through your mind…you are basically reduced to two options…

1. Counter offense very quickly_ possibly with lethal force if you ‘read it’ necessary.
2. Surrender…

In any case you need to get out of the ‘kill zone’ …’out of the hole’ either to fight or to run keeping in mind that the attacker may shoot at you as you run, or try to stab you during your actions.

He may have friends in the classic ‘pincer’ attack….you have not yet seen…

And turning your back on an aggressor usually means surrender and signal weakness.

You may want to try defusing…so you talk…you might stammer giving away your insecurities and fears of the moment….

But if you don’t keep your attention and resolve to quickly solve the problem_ he will suddenly move in on you, leaving a very short reaction time frame.

So now he has forced you to react and his actions may well beat your reactions.

What went wrong? You think you did everything you were taught in the dojo_ but….
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:33 pm

"A Prepared Mind ..."

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Van,

Your sage "But if you don’t keep your attention and resolve to quickly solve the problem_ " has a corollary.

Imagine in your minds eye that as you are, say, walking to your car in a parking garage, or exiting an elevator at the Common Garage, that you will be confronted ... and then see your self dropping your package, fish tail slapping a hand followed by crane strike to trachea, etc."

As it takes about 1/10 th of a second for your 'editor' brain to grasp and then react to an unexpected situation but by this pre-visualization you have gained via this pre-thought a set up for a faster, non surprised, response. It also projects a modicum of calmness that could make you less appetizing to a possible assailant.

50 years ago I saw a situation where a really tough long shoreman type from South Boston was loose, confident, and fast, much as an adult against a child, in a tense situation with a weaker bar patron, allowing his maximum relaxed response.

It was similar to a recent Discovery Channel Show of an Uechi Master demonstrating the Crane Strike from Sanseiryu ending - his whole body was moved in forceful unison with no counteracting inhibitory muscle tensioning. The delivery of his strike to a students chest was maximally and efficiently delivered. Aductors with minimium Abductors.

Back to the 'mating' ritual in that bar. One day that the same longshore man was matched against someone of equal capability who played intimidation 'head games'. Now it was a different story.

I saw his muscles involuntarily tighten up, his jaw clench, etc., and he was now at an inhibitory disadvantage which his 'playmate' quickly took advantage of. He wound up looking up from the floor. [Yours truly was discreetly 'invisible' and proceeded to 'evaporate' out the door onto Broadway and away. "Look for me and I cannot be seen" {grin}]

The many studies discussed on this forum indicate an added benefit in that you have a high probability of projecting "I Am Not A Good Prospect For Your Predation".
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:36 pm

As to ‘tactics’ the lethal force trainers explain that most people misinterpret the concept as best to protect themselves during a fight_ how to ‘avoid injury to themselves’

‘They just have it plain backward’ <
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Tactical means training in getting better situational control over the threat_ better overview of your engagement ‘terrain’ _knowing what when and how you can use your force continuum so you survive financially and stay out of jail.

It means to learn not to be seized by disbelief…”this is not really happening to me” _

You will have about five seconds to decide and you can die within those fateful seconds.

Tactical means a risk assessment of your real level of readiness and effectiveness superimposed over your personal life style…super-imposed on what you really know about yourself…who and what you really are.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:39 pm

The illusions of karate self defense

The four had been listening to music in a parking lot behind Mount Vernon School when they were gradually joined by a group of men, authorities said.

Newark Police Director Garry McCarthy said the four exchanged text messages saying they should leave, but were attacked before they could do so.

Police said the attackers shot one young woman, then forced her three companions down an alley, lined them up against a wall, made them kneel and shot each in the head.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:44 pm

The late Col Jeff Cooper clearly captured the essence of immediate thinking – positive action in the face of a threat.

As you train…if you think only in terms of defensive action and positioning …. You will be locked in defensive/reactive mode waiting for the bad guys to make their next move… this can become compounded by the way we train.

Why? Because probably no dojo instructor has ever shown you how to recognize the clues of when an attack is stalking you… is incipient or it has already begun….and to attack in a force continuum action to ‘solve the damn problem’ in accordance to valid moral and legal standards…

Very easy to say but almost impossible to do for most of us.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:48 pm

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Can anyone give me examples of the “A” leg of the triad?


I'll take a stab at this... My first thoughts are that Ability stands for having the abilities to stop the immediate threat at hand.

These abilities can range from the physical (having the mechanics to hurt someone with a strike, lock, etc.), mental (being able to diffuse with verbal tactics and the "mindset" to do what is necessary to nullify the threat), and spiritual (for lack of a better word) where one is set on repercussions etc. of violence (as much as one can be without having been through it...).

I would also include the whole range of the scenario being pre-conflict indicators (assuming it's not an ambush), the conflict itself up to resolution, and post-conflict strategy.

Examples could range all the way from verbally diffusing a situation, picking up on pre-assault cues and knocking the guy out and down and using Nike-fu, to using more "serious" force in the case of ambush, weapons, and/or multiple attackers.

Lastly, within the triangle that Van Canna Sensei mentioned: Ability - Opportunity - Jeopardy, I see not distinct lines between them, but rather nebulous borders that have each feeding into the others as a necessary whole.

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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 29, 2019 8:49 pm

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Interesting.... I just researched the triad and found that it refers to "justified use of force". When I read it at first and typed my first response I was looking at the triad from the point of view of the first-person rather than the attacker.

I've been thinking about that and it seems that my ideas of when I am justified in defending myself with force meet those criteria - I just have them "defined" to myself differently and the triad seemed to fit well into a model of defining the abilities needed to respond etc.

Interesting "prod" from Van Canna Sensei that got me thinking.... Thank you.

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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:26 am

It is all about the kind of enemy you happen to draw when thinking karate defense.

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By Chuck Remsberg

Career criminals who have mastered the art of surviving in highly dangerous incarceration environments are posing a greater threat to correctional officers and LEOs than ever before, in the opinion of a nationally known gang intelligence expert.

“Today’s career criminals have changed and authorities need to change, too, in order to handle them,” says Frank “Paco” Marcell, jail intelligence supervisor for the Maricopa County (AZ) SO, advisor to the International Latino Gang Investigators Assn. and an executive board member of the National Major Gang Task Force, a law enforcement training and information-sharing group.

Officers on the street and on the cellblock who fail to understand the unique mind-set of our hardest-core offenders, their increasing influence in the criminal world, and their hair-trigger propensity for violence are most at risk, Marcell warns.

“It’s a huge mistake to underestimate these people.

They study you both physiologically and psychologically, looking for evidence of weakness.

For your own safety you need to know how to recognize them, and to approach them always with maximum alertness, appropriate tactics and a high degree of caution.”
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:27 am

A former sergeant with Arizona DPS and a prison gang specialist for more than two decades, Marcell recently granted an exclusive interview to PoliceOne about what his years of close daily exposure to career criminals have taught him and what insights into these potentially deadly individuals law officers need to understand for their own protection. Here are highlights of our conversation:


What constitutes a career criminal?


Actually, they’re a minority of the offender population but disproportionately dangerous. Depending on the institution, they may comprise up to 25% of those incarcerated.

They tend to share certain traits, but what separates them from most of the others is that crime is their lifestyle, no equivocation.

They have the highest recidivism rate. Prison is no deterrent for them. Many are just as comfortable there as they are in the free world.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:28 am

All career criminals are in prison gangs, also known as Security Threat Groups (STGs). Every state has them. You don’t get into that environment without being a career criminal. They run the cellblocks and they’re responsible for most assaults on staff and other inmates.

They have an extensive knowledge of the criminal justice system. They know the ropes as well if not better than the law enforcement community. They love cop reality shows. Interviewing them, I know they’re fully informed about how we do things, in prisons and jails and out on the street.
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Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:30 am

Outside, they tend to belong to street gangs. They actively continue their outside criminal activities when they’re incarcerated, through phone calls, messengers and so on, in addition to controlling drug traffic into the institution. Behind bars, they’re extremely influential among other inmates. Outside, they’re influential wherever they land.

Prison is a very dangerous environment where the weak fall out. A lot of people in law enforcement don’t realize how dangerous it is.

These guys have conquered that environment, so when they get back to the street—man! You see the advantage they have? They’re not pooh-butts.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:32 am

What characteristics help give them the edge?

Many are charismatic and they can be manipulative. Those two traits tend to go hand in hand.

They study people and they’re adroit at sizing people up very quickly, physically and psychologically. They understand human traits and behavior. They’re opportunists, very calculating. They study environments watching for opportunities to do whatever it is they want to do.

Often cops and correctional officers don’t understand that they’re being sized up by these guys; they’re not even aware of it. But to career criminals, this is second nature, looking for weaknesses. That’s what’s helped them survive.

Many have learned how to conquer fear. Certainly they’ve learned not to show fear, because in a prison environment that betrays weakness.

But they use their power and other people’s fear as weapons, very effectively.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:34 am

They’re extremely narcissistic. With their inflated ego, they genuinely believe they’re smarter than we are. They have a high disdain for authority, and have had since they were young and going through the juvenile system. They’re not intimidated by badges.

Their false sense of invincibility can make them all the more dangerous.

When necessary, they have a high propensity for violence. They can flip-flop from calm to violent in an eye blink.

And most have sociopathic personalities. They can stab a guy to death and then just walk away, no big deal.

They can react violently over the slightest perceived provocation, especially when under the influence of alcohol or drugs.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:35 am

Because of their disdain for law enforcement and their lack of concern about consequences, they get involved in a lot of shootings and they seem to hit what they shoot at.

In shootings I’ve looked into, it’s not uncommon for an officer to fire many rounds and miss, but the bad guy fires one or two and hits.

He has no range training, no qualification requirements, but he’s operating with a different mentality. He uses his motor skills with no hindrance in mind, no worry about consequences.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Wed Jul 31, 2019 7:36 am

You look at the top leaders in terrorist groups and you see pretty much the same psychological profile. Terrorist organizations, STGs and street gangs share much the same structure, too. Think of three concentric rings:



• In the core ring are the career criminal types, the “shot callers”.

• The next ring out are the “committed followers”, not yet shot callers but gravitating toward that status. They think of themselves as soldiers, with a warrior-like mentality. They listen to commands and do as they’re told. Those with the most “heart” rise to the top.

• The outer ring are “close associates”. They’re being groomed and trained. They’re in the game, learning the ropes, developing the mind-set, but not yet fully committed. They may hesitate about taking a killing assignment—for now.

It’s a progressive evolution. The closer you are to that center ring, the more certain you are to exhibit career-criminal characteristics.
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