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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:03 am

MIKE T said it very well.If you have any doubts about someone attacking you or not there are no doubts he is going to attack.

Sneak attacks are a whole different problem and only conditioned reflex is going to save you if your reflex is a strike .

Here is the results of a study done in the 60's.

If you block a punch on the inside example using a left hi block to counter a right punch there is a 70% chance your opponent will hit you with his other hand before you can retaliate.70% that's a big edge and that was based on a untrained opponent.

If you block his attack on the outside as in your right block versus his right punch he still has a 40% chance of hitting with his other hand.As the defender you never attain that 70% edge.

The results for striking 1st as a trained fighter in most cases eliminated the need for a 2nd strike depending on your strength target chosen and speed.

In any case always use a 3 strike combination to 3 different targets.

The results for striking without 1st blocking just reacting as you perceive his motion were varied depending on position in relation to the attacker.

Our edge there was surprise as we can strike in just about any direction most of which are not considered by the average attacker.

Though varied they were better than blocking 1st.


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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:05 am

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Recently I witnessed an individual attacked by a baseball bat (court case ongoing so comments limited for now). Anyway, the fact he was totally surprised by the attack in my opinion saved him from receiving a "home run swing" to the skull.

The victim flinched enough for the bat to miss. The victim moved back his head faster than anyone I ever saw in a sparring match...he ran faster than his conditioning should have allowed.

Fast as a startled cat! I suspect if he reacted knowing he was to be attacked the outcome would have been more severe.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:06 am

How is it that at the exact same time of receiving the signal to punch, one puncher always gets 70% of the hits and the other only 30%?

This must be because the puncher is anticipating the blocking of their punch and fires the 2nd at first notice.

Mushashi talks about "tut tut" timing. To me this means no time between one 'tut' and the following 'tut,' (or the shortest possible time).

If defender is going for a full kime expression of his block (not stopping the block on initial contact but following thru to kime), and attacker is doing tut-tut with his punches, defender will lose.

This difference is the difference of experience and timing, and not of the position of the block, inside or outside, to my mind.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Fri Jun 26, 2020 5:09 am

CANDANeh »

What were the actually dynamics of this confrontation that led the assailant closing in on the victim and then suddenly swing at him?


The attacker came out of a nearby residence with his girl friend. She had a wooden baseball bat in hand. As they crossed the street she handed him the bat which he placed under his jacket and pants.

He then quickly went alongside an abandoned building and then we spotted a male around his age (early twenties) coming down the driveway between the building and a large apartment complex.

The attacker changed his direction and slowed when he spotted his victim. They knew each other and made their way towards each other. When he was within striking range, the attacker turned sideways, grasped the bat and swung full out towards the head.

The victim flinched from the bat and started to run as the attacker recovered from his swing (I think he was convinced it would make contact). When the attacker took chase I made a 911 call.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:21 am

This fear of being hunted goes back even further, to the days of our hominid ancestors. These hominids not only hunted for food, but were also possibly prey for leopards.

In fact, many of the early hominid fossils were found in caves where the bones had been dropped from the trees where leopards carried their kill.

Our early ancestors (by early I mean approx. 200,000 years ago) had the fear of being hunted for food. They feared the dark because that was when these predators would attack.

This fear has not left our genes, and we are still afraid of dark places for no apparent reason.

No animals naturally hunt us for food now, but we still fear the unexpected chance that maybe some creature is lurking in the dark.

This fear, which helped our ancestors to survive, now creates mythical creatures and stories.

The fear is clearly a very deep and ancient one, hard-wired into the genes: the fear of being hunted, killed and eaten by a predator. Not many beasts actually eat us, after all: polar bears, tigers, crocodiles, occasionally lions.

Yet sharks seem to top them all in the terror they induce, perhaps because they appear mysteriously from the unknown depths.

"Sharks come from a wing of the dark castle where our nightmares live, deep water beyond our sight and understanding," Benchley wrote.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:26 am

f.Channell »

I was kayaking and canoeing with my daughter and her friend this weekend.
I at least brought a good blade this time.

We stopped at a remote mountain river so they could swim, the previous day.

This lunatic jumped off a 20+ foot cliff into 8' of water, I fully expected him to be dead. His friend told me as long as he's drunk he'll do anything.
They made a living somehow filming these stunts and some "adult" films starring the girl that was with them.

I quietly told my daughter and her friend we had to get going..........
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:30 am

UPDATE: I got an email from a local resident, quite understandably upset with visitors' behavior at the falls. For the record, these activities shouldn't be taking place at a swimming hole:

Graffiti, vandalism, defecation, drinking, or drug use. A few bad apples are spoiling the place for everybody. Please people, show some courtesy and behave yourselves.

Substance abuse (drugs or alcohol) lead to bad decision making processes. I'm not a prude by any stretch of the imagination, but leave your recreational pharmaceuticals at home. Ditto the booze.

I don't want to step on broken glass, nor do I want to haul your dumb ass off the rocks because you thought a drunken backflip was a good idea.

Don't leave your feces in the woods, you should be doing all your elimination at home, okay? This is a swimming hole, not a sewage treatment facility.

Please be mindful of your behavior as it affects other people trying to enjoy the place. Whatever you bring in, bring out including trash, diapers, tampons, beer bottles, and other assorted litter and debris.

Maybe a few dedicated visitors can carry out trash like I do when I'm there. Remember, your supposed to be responsible. If you ARE a responsible visitor, please disregard this rant.



And usually one thing leads to another...some people are born pigs...and the anonimity of the wilderness brings out their scummy streaks, especially under booze and drugs...then you show up with your beautiful wife/daughters...and nothing to defend them with except 'sanchin' ....
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 06, 2020 5:39 am

And the killing continues


WASHINGTON - In Binghamton, N.Y., a Vietnamese immigrant upset about losing his job burst into an immigration center and killed 13 people before killing himself.

And in Graham, Wash., investigators said a man whose wife was leaving him shot and killed five of his children in their mobile home before taking his own life.

The carnage that occurred in less than 48 hours last week capped a recent string of unusually brazen mass killings, which crime specialists say have touched more people and occurred in more public settings than in any time in recent memory.

Comparative statistics are difficult to come by, but during the past month alone, at least eight mass homicides in this country have claimed the lives of 57 people. Just Monday, four people were discovered shot to death in a home in a remote Alabama town.

The factor underlying the violence, some specialists say, is the dismal state of the nation's economy. Criminologists theorize that the epidemic of layoffs, the meltdown of storied American corporations, and the uncertainty of recovery have stoked fear, anxiety, and desperation across society, unnerving its most vulnerable and dangerous people.

"I've never seen such a large number [of killings] over such a short period of time involving so many victims," said Jack Levin, a criminologist at Northeastern University who has authored or co-authored 24 books on mass murder.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby paulg » Mon Jul 06, 2020 10:13 am

Sensei Van, Just watched a segment on the Netflix series "Home Game" about the Calcio Storico di Ferenze, a ball game going back to the year 1530 that involves punching, kicking and wrestling between two teams of twenty-seven men. What a sight!, incredibly tough people. Have you heard of this?
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Mon Jul 06, 2020 2:40 pm

Hi Paul,

I saw a video clip of it, but never knew of the ancient sport. Tough people indeed, but one wonders how long an individual will last to play such game. As it is, modern soccer...once you approach age 30, you are on the way out.

Thanks for the post.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:21 am

fivedragons »

I spent a couple years living in Oakland as a child, learned how to steal newspapers out of the vending machine, learned how to ride a bike and got my toenail ripped off by the asphalt as I tried to "brake" with my foot, hung out with kids who liked to use spray paint, and came home from a construction site with a 2 by 4 nailed to my foot. :lol:

Oh well, the guy had a knife put to his neck and was threatened to be shot by the other guy.

He escaped while putting his assailant's knife through the chest of the accomplice.

The criminal's father is mad at the victim of the crime because his P.O.S. criminal armed robber of a son came home and died crying for daddy.

Homeboy's buddy get's murder because he was involved in a crime that got his "friend" killed. One can only hope he has a couple felonies recorded, so he'll get life.

So what exactly are we supposed to learn from this situation? Is there something that the victim could have done differently under the circumstances?

Interesting to note that the victim told the person on the cell phone that he had a "bad feeling" about the people approaching him. Maybe people should learn to trust their instincts.

Without being there, I don't know what he could have done differently, but THAT'S NOT HIS RESPONSIBILITY. THE RESPONSIBILITY LIES ON THE PEOPLE WHO COMMITTED THE CRIME, AND IT MAKES ME HAPPY THAT ONE OF THEM DIED, AND THE OTHER IS GOING TO JAIL.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:29 am

So what exactly are we supposed to learn from this situation? Is there something that the victim could have done differently under the circumstances?

Interesting to note that the victim told the person on the cell phone that he had a "bad feeling" about the people approaching him. Maybe people should learn to trust their instincts.


Very good questions.

It is 9:30 in the evening on the train station and you get a bad feeling about a couple of punks approaching you.

What you do depends mostly on what you can do at that moment.

Analyze the station...the locus of the setup...and learn to do it at a glance while fighting tunnel vision [which you will have...never mind 'Sanchin eyes' BS not being affected by tunnel vision]...

1. Can you really escape the potential attackers, or are you cut off from exiting the station out on the street?

2. Could you have positioned yourself in a better strategic location while awaiting the ‘pass by’ of the punks?

3. Do you turn and run in wherever direction you can _very possibly triggering a ‘chase down’?

4. What was the distance between the victim and the assailants when the notion of danger was first perceived?

5. Look around the station… do you see any weapons of improvisation?

6. Do you see the environment around you as a possible weapon? Do you see any kind of cover ?

7. Do you take your money out of your pockets and put it in your hands for them to see, so when they manifest their intent… you say “Hey guys just take the money…you need it more than I do” in the hope they’ll just take it and run?

8. It sounds like the victim was alone on the station’s platform when the attack occurred. Was he exiting a train or waiting for one to arrive? Either way... should he have made sure there were other people around when he went to the ATM machine?

Should he have retrieved his money from a safer ATM location?


9. Should he have had his hand on some weapon like OC pepper spray as a matter of habit?

10. Did he have any chance to ‘control the distance’ as the punks approached? Could he have reacted faster with some kind of evasion upon first becoming aware of the punks?

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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:31 am

mhosea »

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Should he have retrieved his money from a safer ATM location?



This goes to preparation. Whether he was leaving or arriving, let's suppose he needed the cash without delay.

Looking back over the last few years, including several trips (and one in which I used cabs to get around), I don't think I've been to any ATMs other than the one at the bank near my home. Better to carry a little more and make a mugger happier, I should think.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:33 am

If you were to be a fly on the wall during the criminal/civil trial for 'damages' against the victim...you would hear this from the prosecutor "Why did you not just give them the money" ? And you will hear this, mark my words.
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Re: Good talk on blocks

Postby Van Canna » Tue Jul 07, 2020 4:39 am

Chris McKaskell »

I admit I'm no pro, but can't you see a conscientious defender running into a wall of doubt in a moment which really requires swift and decisive action all because he's afraid of the social and legal ramifications of surviving and beating off an attacker?

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