by 2Green » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:20 am
Thank you both, I took your answers and did some studying.
Alan Dollar's book refers to both " Hirate Mawashi Uke" and "Wauke".
His distinction is that the first uses only one arm, the second uses both arms (adds the secondary block).
(This addresses a mis-understanding on my part. I thought that BOTH were referred to as a Wauke. I gather that only the two-armed version is correctly called the Wauke.)
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However, interestingly, the "form" of the main blocking arm is the same in both of Alan Dollar's examples, and it is clearly illustrated and described as "palm toward the opponent".
You can clearly see this on page 303, third frame photo as the big knuckles pass the eyes, the palm is faced out.
Also interestingly, he makes NO MENTION of the "plane", whether vertical or inclined.
What I am trying to get a handle on, is where the variations of both plane and main-arm form got introduced.
I'm sort of dealing with the co-evolution of TWO concepts here, both intertwined.
One concept is the twisting/rolling forearm idea; the other is the plane of the circular movement.
Are these BOTH taught as separate, distinct techniques for different applications by most teachers, or is it the kind of thing where a teacher will gravitate toward using one particular combo ( e.g., inclined plane, palm out) and teach only that?
And of course, when and how did the variations enter the picture?
~N~
The music spoke to me. I felt compelled to answer.