Bruce Lee and Jim Maloney

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And Shane writes this...

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Only to point out the real Maloney and his legendary skills in fighting and defensive context. In many cases...just plain attack and destroy his enmies, as he has done even recently against drug dealers who were trying to kill him in Halifax because of his 'sweeper' job under the Eskasoni contract.
Sensei Van Canna, Sensei Arthur Rabesa, Joe Pomfret…. are a few of the incredibly talented people whom have spent some time with us in the past few years, leaving lasting impressions of exceptional power and effectiveness of techniques…. humbling, honouring, encouraging, educating….

If you look past the picture, body positioning, movement or potential movements and look into the eyes… I was not present on that day but I am certain of the “mindset” the “combative mindset”.

I see the warrior, a great warrior, a hunter, a survivor… I am from Nova Scotia, I am all too familiar with Sensei Maloney’s beginnings; I have experienced first hand the travesties our “First Nations People” have experienced, you have wrote of this Van… Sensei Maloney is a survivor.
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I was very humbled the day Sensei Maloney took me to his father’s final resting place, a visit and an honour I will not forget. We were attending a funeral of a mutual friend, a friend who took his own life out of desperation… Sensei Maloney is a great warrior to his people, when commissions are formed to investigate unfairness within political systems, abuse of powers or other unfair or unsafe behaviors; Sensei Maloney is tasked the responsibility to correct it.
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As to his Uechi journey…I think it was quite extraordinary_

He was the first person in Canada to achieve his black belt in Uechi Ryu…and the first person to introduce Uechi karate to Canada in 1970.

As an official representative to Okinawa/Japan for Canada in the Uechi Ryu Karate association, he has trained more than 16,000.00 students internationally as well as trained and developed hundreds of fighting champions on full contact basis.

In those days I was in Canada with Jim in all his fighting events, and there were no style practitioners , as arrogant as they might have been, such as Kung Fu, Wing-Chun, TKD, Shotokan and others…who got anywhere with his fighters.

Most of those people were either knocked out or caused to withdraw from the tournaments, such as one particular Kung Fu school, because they could not withstand the punishment.

Jim was an undefeated New England champion in free fighting and cement breaking competitions [1967-1973]

He developed and taught self –defense programs for the Halifax school for the blind_ provided special training for women in self-defense in conjunction with the YWCA _ YMCA _ Helpline and Rape crisis center.

Interestingly he was officially licensed as a professional boxing promoter_ promoted many professional boxing cards, including televised title bouts, Wide World of Sports_ in conjunction with top rank inc. Bob Arum.

He also promoted many professional kick boxing title bouts. His students were KO specialists…still are.

There is much more…Jim is a man who was never idle with his inborn talents.
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Featured articles:

Police Non-lethal force manual [1987] by Bill Clede

Bruce Lee story…the way of Karate [1973] by George Mattson [he fought Bruce Lee at the Mattson Academy of Boston]

Black Belt magazine [October 1977]

Atlantic insights [1980]

Cities Magazine [1986]

SWAT magazine [1986]

Metro news magazine [1987]

Newspapers: major circulations internationally and locally featuring martial arts, police training, executive protection, and tribal police training program.

There is much more.
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He analyzes the situation in extreme detail and tactical value in keeping with the spirit of human physiological and psychological response as related to a perceived threat of an attack, Sensei Maloney is a hunter, a predator “never” the prey.

I suspect some folks on this forum have experienced Sensei Maloney look into your soul for a brief moment prior to that “Explosive Attack” that soon follows… good luck capturing “IT” on video or film and better luck interpreting “IT” and yet even better luck incorporating “IT” into your system of fighting.

I write this with the highest degree of respect for those interested in reading my interpretations. There are many great fighters among this group of friends.

Van, I wish you well, and the contributors to these forums well also, I hope you visit us again soon and we break bread…

I am sorry I could not be at camp; mom is doing well, until we speak again… Godspeed…


Shane.

Dear Shane,

I am so happy your mom has fought so well and won. You come from good stock. :)

Give her my love.

A hug to you and that beautiful family of yours :D
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Thank you Van,

Mom is well; I will share your sentiments… thank you.

Thank you for helping with the post, I am still unclear as to why I was having difficulties on this end, the PM has resolved any issues and I appreciate you sharing this correspondence and pictures…

I write this with the highest degree of respect for those interested in reading my interpretations. There are many great fighters among this group of friends.

I have said it here before in an earlier post… “Sensei Maloney will certainly tell you even a Grizzly Bear will weigh his options (situational/environmental) before wadding in”.

As we have mutual agreed in the past “Maloney and his legendary skills in fighting and defensive context.... In many cases...just plain attack and destroy his enemies…

Warm regards,
I'll see you soon brother, I'm moving to Maine in October or November


I look froward to the visit.


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Thank you Shane

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I have said it here before in an earlier post… “ Sensei Maloney will certainly tell you even a Grizzly Bear will weigh his options (situational/environmental) before wadding in ”.
I think the difference between someone like Maloney and many others, without being offensive, is that he is genetically programmed for war...
The Micmac must have been among the first Indians of the north east coast encountered by Europeans, as he thinks they were visited by Sebastian Cabot in 1497, and that the 3 natives he took to England were of this tribe.

Kohl believes that those captured by Cortereal in 1501 and taken to Europe were Micmac.

Most of the early voyagers to this region speak of the great numbers of Indians on the north coast of Nova Scotia and New Brunswick, and of their fierce and warlike character.
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As we have mutual agreed in the past “ Maloney and his legendary skills in fighting and defensive context.... In many cases...just plain attack and destroy his enemies… ”


Well, that is his reputation, and in the past he has done just that.

The reason why the Eskasoni Nation chose him for a 'clean-sweep' operation nobody else wanted.

And jimmy did it by himself.

The trolls you have seen posting and then vanish _understand that way deep inside. :lol:
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And Jimmy can shoot, use knives and any gun ever made in ways that are unique.

One of his monikers was 'Dead eye Jake' ....One shotgun I gave him is on record from his hunting buddies to never have missed a target.

And I have some 'secret information' about Jimmy as to his savagery in 'battle' that I will never reveal. :wink:
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And then...there is nobody like Jimmy that will take care of a real friend like he does...a wonderful human being in every respect.

Kanei Uechi loved him.

He will be joining us soon in Boston in several weeks to attend the big dinner party by another great warrior...Bob Campbell. :lol:

Come on Down :D
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Re: Bait me baby....

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JimHawkins wrote:Yeah what is the assumption?

What was it the bait? Just waiting to drudge up crap again, but I guess you have to.....

Yeah, you should ban this very real threat to the ego.. Wonder why GEM never does.....
Same old BS about WC, right Jim? :wink: Things haven't changed a bit in years gone by...you got get in there and somehow put forward WC over Uechi right?
Yeah same old BS all the way around as far as I'm concerned...

Put forth WC over Uechi where? Spin away baby!

By saying it was a friendly non sparring demo as you said face to "face"...

By seeing the obvious from those old pictures?

By not buying your latest spin?

Yeah okay whatever... Most can read between the lines....

Yeah, my secret agenda as written out over the years here, most of which you backed all the way, until it no longer suited your personal needs that is... :lol: :oops:

Some others have moved on to embrace those very elements--good on them for continuing to learn and grow...

Yeah, same old BS here is right, and I never doubted it for a nanosecond....

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I will not post on this site again except by request of a forum moderator...

To my friends here: feel free to email me ny_hawk@hotmail.com

Y'all have fun now!

What i mean is the concept using him as a poster child, as well as the assumption that bruce lee's first instinct would be to trap. From what i have seen of his books, looks like his first instict would be to strike, based on biographers, including his critics(like unsettled matters) talks about bruce lee's skills in boxing taking him very very far.


And for all my critiques of the guy being overrated, im pretty sure he was a pretty good fighter, im not knocking that aspect of him. Just the 'Martial arts saint' image of the guy.
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And for all my critiques of the guy being overrated, im pretty sure he was a pretty good fighter, im not knocking that aspect of him. Just the 'Martial arts saint' image of the guy.
He certainly was a good fighter...but so were many others...Maloney being one of them. And the discussion was not about who 'won' the encounter ...just an observation on technique exchange between two very good martial artists.

The problem with that guy is that every time we have ever even come close to a discussion of possibly Uechi vs. WC...he goes off the deep end. The reason why he has made tons of enemies in the Uechi world and even on WC forums where I have seen similar behavior.

Look at what happened with Rick's forum.
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Van Canna wrote:
And for all my critiques of the guy being overrated, im pretty sure he was a pretty good fighter, im not knocking that aspect of him. Just the 'Martial arts saint' image of the guy.
He certainly was a good fighter...but so were many others...Maloney being one of them. And the discussion was not about who 'won' the encounter ...just an observation on technique exchange between two very good martial artists.

The problem with that guy is that every time we have ever even come close to a discussion of possibly Uechi vs. WC...he goes off the deep end. The reason why he has made tons of enemies in the Uechi world and even on WC forums where I have seen similar behavior.

Look at what happened with Rick's forum.
Sorry about my post's incoherent nature.

Your totally right.
The only reason a problem happened in this thread was an assumption that because were talking about Malony and how he looked against bruce lee, somehow bruce lee represented wing chun. Why? Is he a successor of the style? Did he study it more in depth then anyone else int he world at that time? If so, how did he find time to study with so many other styles?

Why does bruce lee represent wing chun? From bruce lee's interviews, i got the vibe he uses everything he can from any system, from inosato's video, i got the impression of aliveness taken from western martial arts.

Matt serra started out with Kung-fu, no one calls him a kung-fu fighter. The only reason we credit machida's success with karate is because he himself credits it and has released video.

Bruce lee was bruce lee, and should not represent wing chun, he was not the founder, nor did he try to promote it as a single style. If bruce lee promoted anyone, it's bruce lee.

I mean damn, even talking "Wing chun techniques vs uechi-ryu" well....boxing has what? 4 primary techniques with a variations in footwork and movement. In theory, uechi-ryu and wing chun are way better because it has more techniques. Yet....who here thinks an average uechi-ryu black belt or wing chun practioner can beat a professional boxer? Maybe, maybe not, but we know boxing is a sweet science, and no one would think a boxer isn't a threat to them because they have "less techniques"

I mean the comparison of 'more or less techniques' or 'better forms' is pretty juvenile.

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Adam,

Not sure I quite get your post :?

Can you expound a bit?

Thanks :)
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I went back and edited it.


(which post, first one or the response)

I edited the response.
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Thanks Adam...all clear now.
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