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All the details aren't out yet. But this is troubling.

So you think you're a bad a$$, eh?

Humbling... 8O

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Redskins' Sean Taylor shot, in critical condition

Fla. (AP) — Washington Redskins star safety Sean Taylor was critically injured Monday in a shooting at his home that family members feared could cause permanent brain damage. Miami-Dade Police were still investigating who was responsible for the attack, which came just eight days after an intruder was reported at Taylor's home.

The 24-year-old player was in the intensive care unit following several hours of surgery at Jackson Memorial Hospital, said family friend Richard Sharpstein, his former lawyer. The bullet hit Taylor in his upper leg and damaged his femoral artery, causing significant blood loss and prompting concerns about blood flow to the brain.

Taylor remained unconscious Monday evening.

"The doctors are being very guarded about their prognosis," said Sharpstein, who was at the hospital with the player's family and friends. "They're being a little bit skeptical about either whether he might make it or whether it might cause some permanent brain injury."

Still, Vinny Cerrato, the Redskins' vice president of football operations, said he was encouraged by some news from the hospital.

"He was responsive to the doctor's request to squeeze his hand and show facial expression, and so the doctors were very happy about that," Cerrato said. "They told us to hope for a miracle, and I think the positive news we got was extremely good news."

Taylor has had several problems on and off the field, including an incident two years ago in which he was accused of brandishing a gun.

Police were questioning Taylor's girlfriend and others who were in the house at the time of the shooting. They said the home's occupants had not yet been removed from the list of potential suspects, though Sharpstein said it was clear an invader was responsible.

Sharpstein said Taylor's girlfriend told him the couple was awakened by loud noises, and Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection. Someone then broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor, the lawyer said.

"It was clearly a burglary, an armed burglary," Sharpstein said, adding nothing appeared to have been stolen.

Police were being more guarded in their assessment. "It could have been a possible burglary; it could have been a possible robbery," Miami-Dade Police Lt. Nancy Perez said. "It has not been confirmed as yet."

No arrests have been made.

Officers were dispatched to Taylor's home about 1:45 a.m. Monday after his girlfriend called 911 and said he was shot in his lower body. He was airlifted to the hospital.

The shooting followed a Nov. 17 report of a burglary at the pale yellow house Taylor bought two years ago in this Miami suburb. In that incident, according to police records, someone pried open a front window, rifled through his drawers and left a kitchen knife on a bed.

"They're really sifting through that incident and today's incident ... to see if there's any correlation," said Miami-Dade Police Detective Mario Rachid.

Taylor sprained a ligament in his right knee in the second half of the Nov. 11 loss to Philadelphia and missed the last two games — including the 19-13 loss by the Redskins (5-6) on Sunday at Tampa. He didn't travel with the team to the game because of his injury.

Taylor called coach Joe Gibbs on Nov. 19 to let the coach know he'd miss that morning's regular team meeting because he was in Florida dealing with the break-in two days earlier.

"He said, 'Coach, somebody broke into my home yesterday and I came down here to straighten everything out."' Gibbs recounted. "I said, 'I understand that.' I said, 'Take care of your house and everything you have to there."'

Taylor was at the team's headquarters Saturday to get his knee treated, Gibbs said, adding that he wasn't aware the player then returned to Florida.

Redskins owner Dan Snyder arrived in Miami on his private plane with running back Clinton Portis, vice president of football operations Vinny Cerrato and trainer Bubba Tyer.

A group of Taylor's fans planned a two-hour vigil Monday evening outside the front gate at Redskins Park. Meanwhile, Redskins safety Pierson Prioleau fought to keep his composure.

"This is not just a member of the Washington Redskins," Prioleau said. "But we're talking about a dad, a brother, a friend of ours, and that's where we're at with this right now."

Gibbs was joined by the team chaplain at the Redskins' usual Monday meeting. A small group of players held a separate prayer gathering.

Known as one of the NFL's hardest hitters, Taylor played in his first Pro Bowl last season, where he drew attention by leveling the other team's punter in what is usually a well-mannered exhibition game. Even though he has missed two games, his five interceptions remained tied for most in the NFC.

The safety is in his fourth season with the Redskins after playing at the University of Miami, where he was an All-American in 2003. He has been in trouble numerous times since he was drafted as the No. 5 overall pick in 2004.

Taylor has been fined at least seven times during his professional career for late hits and other infractions, including a $17,000 penalty for spitting in the face of Tampa Bay running back Michael Pittman during a playoff game in January 2006. He also was fined $25,000 for skipping a mandatory rookie symposium shortly after he was drafted.

Redskins coaches and players have defended Taylor, saying he was smart and misunderstood. Taylor has been slow to let anyone in his inner circle. He has rarely spoken to reporters, saying he does not trust them. Teammates said he became more mature over the last year after he became a father for the first time.

In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.

Taylor reached a deal with prosecutors last year after they agreed to drop felony charges against him. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation. The pleas prompted another fine from the NFL but kept his football career intact.

He also was ordered to talk about the importance of education at 10 Miami schools and had to contribute $1,000 for scholarships to each of those schools.

The man Taylor allegedly hit, Ryan Hill, sued, seeking at least $15,000 in damages. Hill sustained bruises to his body, incurred medical expenses and lost wages because of the fight, the lawsuit said.
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What appears to have been a home invasion and an attempt by Sean Taylor to protect his home and fiancee has resulted in his shocking and untimely death at the hands of a hooligan.

May Sean rest in peace.

May we all learn from this tragedy.

May we catch the punk, and may he fry in Ole Sparky.

May his daugher grow up to know her father as a boy who grew up to be a man and made something special of himself.

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What went wrong here?
  • He wasn't adequately prepared for yet another home invasion. Someone breaks into your home a week earlier, rifles through your stuff, and leaves a kitchen knife on your bed. Helloooo!!! 8O
  • If "past indiscretions" made it difficult or impossible to own a firearm, what measures could he have taken to protect his family? With 20/20 hindsight, a machete didn't quite cut it. (Bad pun...)
  • About a year earlier, a U Miami football player was shot and killed not far from this location. The assailant has yet to be identified. Sooo.... That should put the fear of God in you. If not, I don't know what would.
  • He made the mistake of assuming that bad guys fight by the rules of gentlemen. They most certainly do not. His size and his dignity meant nothing on this playground.
What went right here?
  • He put family first. 'Nuff said.
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From ESPN wrote:
Sharpstein said Taylor's girlfriend told him the couple was awakened by loud noises, and Taylor grabbed a machete he keeps in the bedroom for protection. Someone then broke through the bedroom door and fired two shots, one missing and one hitting Taylor, Sharpstein said. Taylor's 1-year-old daughter, Jackie, was also in the house, but neither she nor Taylor's girlfriend was injured.
Supposedly the BG also cut the phone lines before entering.

I don't think whoever did this entered the house with simple robbery in mind and I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the house had made a bad lifestyle choice in the recent past.
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Sean Taylor indeed had made many "bad lifestyle choices" in the past. However every indication is that he made a dramatic transformation when his daughter was born. He made the pro bowl last year with a dramatic improvement in tackles, and this year was leading the league in interceptions. Teammates commented on his focus, happy disposition, and new attitude.

The fact that he chose to stay home and try to protect his family after the first home invasion says it all. He did this with the full blessings of the Redskins coach, whom he consulted after the first home invasion. I get a little uneasy with the "he asked for it" implications, Mike. There's a lot of such chatter online where people can comment on the news stories. In my book, it's akin to saying a woman "deserved to be raped." Sean was doing the right thing. Injury and all, he was at home protecting his fiancee and his new baby girl.

He didn't deserve to die. The punk(s) who perpetrated this shooting deserved to die.

Oh, and the Miami Police should hang their heads in shame. This is the second shooting/killing of a major football star in that general location in the last year or so. Last year's crime has yet to be solved. I'd a lot rather focus on that than ponder whether or not Sean has been a good boy.

Another interesting thing posted on the comments is how he should have had a security system installed. Right... A security system is going to protect you from perps who cut your phone lines before entering? I don't think so.

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Bill Glasheen wrote:Oh, and the Miami Police should hang their heads in shame. This is the second shooting/killing of a major football star in that general location in the last year or so.
There are 70 some murders a year in Miami. Who cares if this guy was a football player? I don't! I care about getting the murder rate down.
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TSDguy wrote:
Who cares if this guy was a football player?
Anyone who is interested in a pattern. Anyone who is interested in apprehending a particularly scary brand of criminal. It's difficult not to know that you're shooting at either a college or NFL level football athlete. It's noteworty that said perpetrators did so with no fear of compromising their own lives. Ponder that a bit.

I might also add that this one killing caused a major hit on their tax base. And it isn't just that taxpayer. "The neighborhood" also will be affected by this kind of crime. Like it or not, it is what it is.

Nevertheless your point is well taken.

If it takes famous, high profile, high achievement people to get public attention on a serious problem, then I'm all for it. At least in these cases, you can't say "we" cared because the victims were white and blonde.

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Bill Glasheen wrote:The fact that he chose to stay home and try to protect his family after the first home invasion says it all. He did this with the full blessings of the Redskins coach, whom he consulted after the first home invasion. I get a little uneasy with the "he asked for it" implications, Mike. There's a lot of such chatter online where people can comment on the news stories. In my book, it's akin to saying a woman "deserved to be raped." Sean was doing the right thing. Injury and all, he was at home protecting his fiancee and his new baby girl.

He didn't deserve to die. The punk(s) who perpetrated this shooting deserved to die.
Didn't imply any such thing Bill. I said, "... I wouldn't be surprised if someone in the house had made a bad lifestyle choice in the recent past". I do find it interesting that many victims of home invasions have a criminal background or connection. Did Taylor or his girl friend have one? I don't know, but I wouldn't be surprised if either one had fallen in with the wrong crowd at some point. Sometimes you can't walk away from your past.

Once again, I don't think whoever did this entered the house with simple robbery in mind. Why would he need to protect his girl friend after the first robbery, why expect these guys to come back? Why a machete? Why did the BG's crash in the bedroom door and start shooting? Why target the only house with the security fence if the BG's were just looking to rob a house? It could be nothing but something looks funny about this situation. I guess I just see the dark side of people a little more.

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I agree, Mike. Also, why didn't they finish him at the scene with a shot to the head or chest after they'd got him once? The simplest explanation I can think of is that the perps are (or were hired by) associates of the deceased or of his fiance. The first break-in was a warning message to comply with some demand. The second break-in was supposed to escalate the coercion. They wanted to maim him, not kill him. Just speculation, of course, but does a serial jock killer seem more likely?
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Some different aspects to the story here from the one above:
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/11/27/obit.taylor/index.html
"Sean was awakened with his girlfriend and 18-month-old baby," Sharpstein said. There were "noises, thumps in the living room." Taylor "got up and locked the bedroom door. Before he could do anything, the door was kicked in and two shots were fired -- one hit him in the leg, one went into the wall."
No mention of Taylor having a knife or machete, or time to do much of anything.

This indicates it is unlikely the attacker was actually there to target Taylor:
"Whether this was a purposeful action in taking Sean's life in shooting him, or whether it was a burglary gone awry, the police are still investigating those circumstances," Sharpstein said.

The attorney said Taylor was home unexpectedly because of an injury, and "no one expected him there."

"I think he was surprised or they were surprised to find him there," Sharpstein said.
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Frankly I like this better. This is Peter King from SI.com
We don't know much about the Taylor story yet. Random act of senseless violence? Doesn't sound like it, but we don't know. Simple burglary gone wrong? We don't know. Sordid past rising up in some sort of revenge attack? We don't know. So we have to be careful about jumping to conclusions with a story that is in its infancy.
Amen!

I don't buy that anyone was trying to "off" Sean Taylor. To be honest, hitting the femoral artery - as they did - was dumb friggin luck. That's not really near the center of mass. The other shot missed.

Too early to speculate.

We do know that the Miami police and the Redskins knew Sean's home had been broken into 8 days earlier. Sean was there because Sean was protecting his home. Coach Gibbs said so.

We do know that Bryan Pata was shot and killed after practice on Nov. 7, 2006. That wasn't far from where Sean was shot and killed.

Are they connected? We don't know.

Is this getting ridiculous? Isn't this kind of attack more than a touch brazen? I'm thinking so.

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MikeK wrote:
Why would he need to protect his girl friend after the first robbery, why expect these guys to come back?
I would do the same if someone broke into my home and I knew nothing more. However I would be a bit more prepared.
Mike wrote:
Why a machete?
USAToday wrote:
In 2005, Taylor was accused of brandishing a gun at a man and repeatedly hitting him during a fight that broke out after Taylor and some friends went looking for the people who had allegedly stolen his all-terrain vehicles.

Taylor reached a deal with prosecutors last year after they agreed to drop felony charges against him. He pleaded no contest to two misdemeanors in the assault case and was sentenced to 18 months probation.
So... Do you really think Sean wanted to screw up his probation by having a firearm in the home? That would have been risky.

The "threat" was a kitchen knife on the bed.

Sean was compromised by a past. Any possession and/or use of a firearm could have been reason for the law to jail him first and ask questions later. He was TRYING to be a good guy.
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Why did the BG's crash in the bedroom door and start shooting? Why target the only house with the security fence if the BG's were just looking to rob a house?
I could think of all kinds of reasons, up to and including the intruders having a meth habit. Meth addiction makes you bold, stupid, and totally without feeling. Sean's home was a nice house in a nice neighborhood. Can you say money?

Lots of other explanations.

We just don't know.

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MikeK wrote:
Why did the BG's crash in the bedroom door and start shooting? Why target the only house with the security fence if the BG's were just looking to rob a house?

Here's a plausible answer, proposed by Eric Casilias as guest host on Mike & Mike in the Morning (ESPN radio).

Sean wasn't supposed to be at his home in Florida. Sunday is a football day. And even with his injured knee, he was supposed to be back at the Redskin's training facility doing his rehab. The break-in was late Sunday night. The only ones who were supposed to be home were his fiancee and their 18-month-old little girl. Nobody but the coach knew Sean was in his Miami home.

Easy pickins. Sort of...

They broke the door down, and there was Sean Taylor with a machete.

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I'd shoot and run too!

As to their motive for being there, well... We don't know yet.

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P.S. Several decades back I had a medical student who knew a Choy Li Fut broadsword form. He used to demo it with a machete. Very impressive, and very scary.
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I'd shoot and run too!
If they left in a hurry there should be some evidence where they either jumped the wall or where they left their getaway vehicle, no?

A security system that was turned off, non-functioning phones, someone being home that wasn't supposed to be, a supposed break in of a walled property (was a gate left open?). If accurate that's a lot coincidences at first blush.

Being shot in the groin/upper leg could indicate something too.

Hmmmmm
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MikeK wrote:
Being shot in the groin/upper leg could indicate something too.
I'm not an expert marksman, but I have been trained more than your average LEO. And my quasi-expert opinion is that there isn't a lot of aiming involved here.

Again... One shot missed and the other hit the femoral artery. Hitting a femoral is dumb luck. It happens... But under that kind of stress, very few are going to be aiming at anything but the center of mass. And if you aren't, you're a complete idiot.

Thoughts Rich? Van?

I'm thinking they had an "Oh schit!" moment and shot twice. They hit what they hit.

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Note that there isn't any sex organ near the two femorals. It starts at the branch point in the abdomen, and goes down the insides of the legs.

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P.S. For reference's sake, Sean Taylor is 6-2 and weighs 212. He's not super big, but you could see how a "level" shot might hit "low" on him.
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