Good morning Folks,
Somewhere I once read a supposed date (month, at least) in 1910 when Kanbun Sensei left China and returned to Okinawa. Does anyone know that date or month? Also, a reliable source reference would help a lot...
One source indicates June 1910 (according to this source, Kanbun was married 3 months after his return from China, and his son Kanei was born 9 months later in June 1911, so June 1910 is a possibility).
Another source indicated March 1910.
Seizan
Leaving China
Moderator: Bill Bauknecht
Re: Leaving China
Can't verify the source reliability, but I found that Kanbun returned to Okinawa in February 1910. Book source: Breyette (pg. 3). Sole web source:
http://www.womenskaratetour.org/History2.htm
Kanbun's son, Kanei, was born on 26 June 1911.
https://forums.uechi-ryu.com/viewtopic.php?t=22936
http://www.womenskaratetour.org/History2.htm
Kanbun's son, Kanei, was born on 26 June 1911.
https://forums.uechi-ryu.com/viewtopic.php?t=22936
Erik
“Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order.”
- John Adams
“Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order.”
- John Adams
Re: Leaving China
Good morning, Erik,
The history referred to in the Woman's Tour information, written by me during the early and mid 1990's, draws from popular sources and Uechi Folktales of the day which most often went unquestioned. However, it gained the approval of the authority figures of that time and I was encouraged to share it with visitors to Okinawa. I must have shared 30 or 40 copies over a 5-year period. Now, I wish it would just go away...
While it reads well and a lot of people seem to like it, I have since found that it (the "history" I wrote) is full of holes, unanswered questions, and spurious information.
I tend to disregard almost everything I wrote of UechiRyu history prior to 1998. What I've more recently published is based on reliable resources (i.e., Japanese Government documentation, eyewitness accounts, on-the-spot newspaper reports, Fuzhou Historical Society accounts, more accurate and reliable translations, etc.).
Though I admit it was a good morning chuckle to find I was referred to myself as a resource for information I was looking for...!
The history referred to in the Woman's Tour information, written by me during the early and mid 1990's, draws from popular sources and Uechi Folktales of the day which most often went unquestioned. However, it gained the approval of the authority figures of that time and I was encouraged to share it with visitors to Okinawa. I must have shared 30 or 40 copies over a 5-year period. Now, I wish it would just go away...
While it reads well and a lot of people seem to like it, I have since found that it (the "history" I wrote) is full of holes, unanswered questions, and spurious information.
I tend to disregard almost everything I wrote of UechiRyu history prior to 1998. What I've more recently published is based on reliable resources (i.e., Japanese Government documentation, eyewitness accounts, on-the-spot newspaper reports, Fuzhou Historical Society accounts, more accurate and reliable translations, etc.).
Though I admit it was a good morning chuckle to find I was referred to myself as a resource for information I was looking for...!
Re: Leaving China
Funny, I found another source saying he was married at May 1910.
https://www.kesslerkarate.com/uechi_ryu ... story.html
https://www.kesslerkarate.com/uechi_ryu ... story.html
Erik
“Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order.”
- John Adams
“Old minds are like old horses; you must exercise them if you wish to keep them in working order.”
- John Adams
Re: Leaving China
According to Robert Garone's English translation of The Untold Story of Kanbun Uechi by Keisuke Fujimoto, "After 13 years abroad, Kanbun Uechi...set foot in his hometown after returning to Naha harbor in 1909" (p.52). The source cited for this information is the 1977 Uechi Kyohan (referred to as "Comprehensive Okinawan Karate-Its History and Techniques").
Glenn
