Tradition (and money) From: Jason Bernard Date: 10 Sep 1998 Time: 14:19:00 Sensei Steve, I was just discussing this very topic with an instructor friend of mine. We were just thinking about how many good schools went down the "dark path" just to stay open. Maybe some of the schools out the...

Funakoshi
From: Steve DiOrio
Date: 11 Sep 1998
Time: 17:46:06

To All,
Funakoshi earned his living from Karate and he fundamentally changed Okinawan Karate so as to more easily "sell " it to the Japanese.
Hmm.

The Dark Side From: Phils Date: 11 Sep 1998 Time: 21:48:04 Maurice: Good point. I won't say I understand the quote without the context but I can see the pursuit of art as fundamentally at odds with the profit motive. It is not quite the same thing as the quality over quantity debate that started but...

From: maurice richard libby Date: 11 Sep 1998 Time: 13:28:06 Gichin Funikoshi once said, I don't remember where, that no one should make their living teaching karate. I think he was aware back then that commerical considerations make comprimise inevitable. The other thing is thew desire to expand. M...

Re: Tradition From: Phils Date: 16 Sep 1998 Time: 13:23:35 John, I;m sorry if I gave the wrong impression. Self-revealing in that it offers a chance to reflect. I'm still not sure how this equates to humbling but that was not the intent here. I agree that performance pushes one and is exhilarating. ...

Re: Tradition From: John Craig Date: 16 Sep 1998 Time: 01:02:53 PhilS: How do you mean self revealing? For me I was stunned that I placed! I think in many ways the self revealing element may not necessarily be a humbler, but can in fact shock us into a notch more self confidence. Learning to become ...

Tradition From: PhilS Date: 15 Sep 1998 Time: 18:08:59 In fact, John, you improvised by combining two kata! Also, you stuck your neck out, put yourself on the line by putting what you have learned out there for all to see. It sounds like it was a worthwhile experience. Sunday, our club did a demonst...

traditions, etc. vs. modernism From: John Craig Date: 12 Sep 1998 Time: 21:45:58 Last spring I entered an open karate tournament on my own on a lark. It was a pretty small affair, with limited competition. Still, I marveled at so many different styles and approaches. Although but a minnow(kyu), I wa...

Tradition (and money) From: Jason Bernard Date: 10 Sep 1998 Time: 14:19:27 Sensei Steve, I was just discussing this very topic with an instructor friend of mine. We were just thinking about how many good schools went down the "dark path" just to stay open. Maybe some of the schools out the...

Tradition From: Steve DiOrio Date: 10 Sep 1998 Time: 09:28:14 Jason, I share your concern and as a "Professional Martial Artist" this issue has challenged me. I see Karate schools that are attracting more students that I do. Often they are the schools that have focused most strongly away f...

Exactly So From: Phils Date: 12 Sep 1998 Time: 21:29:40 Lori: Correct on all point... and you may have hit on the essense of the Funakoshi quote (or at least one aspect of it). Teaching differs from 'the doing' and running a school differs from teaching and 'the doing! The level of quality of a scho...

Tradition, direction, and economics From: Lori Date: 12 Sep 1998 Time: 17:53:10 Hear hear on acknowledging honest joy in other people - regardless of flat notes or missteps. I've had to acknowledge that concept in parenting, teaching, (not just karate) and in friendships. Hard to do sometimes - it's...

From: Phils Date: 12 Sep 1998 Time: 11:33:19 Well said Jason. To add to what you say, Clarence Von Wilder used say years ago "the cream always rises to the top". He was right. I know what you see out there... it has always been there and it's a function of the fascination with the martial ...

From: Jason Bernard Date: 12 Sep 1998 Time: 08:15:17 Osu! This has been a very thought provoking set of threads. Thanks to everybody for sharing. Let me say this. I do feel that every form of martial arts training does have some value (nobody can deny that doing a jumping kick 7' in the air repeated...

From: Phils Date: 11 Sep 1998 Time: 23:24:01 Comments Whoops... my connection went down and the posting missed some things.... sorry if it reads like a ramble. The missing thoughts were these, but not necessarily in this order. Teaching (making a living) isn't really the same as the pursuit of the a...