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MikeK
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Chalk one up for traditional karate?

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I think this story is pretty cool though I'd like to hear more details before joining their school.

"They all had crowbars with them," he said. "I blocked them with my forearm."

Sounds cool, but...

"I think the best thing to say about this is that you were a well-prepared man," sensei John Benedict Sr., 41, said to his son afterward. "And criminals don't go after well-prepared men."

Anybody want to point out to dad that he was wrong about that? :lol:
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Teen uses karate he learned from dad to ward off 4 attackers carrying crowbars at Smith Haven Mall
BY LUIS PEREZ
luis.perez@newsday.com

April 6, 2007

They were taller, older, stood four abreast and carried crowbars.

But they didn't know that John Benedict Jr., 17, is not only a karate instructor's son. He's one of his father's top students.

When the attempted robbery and ensuing scuffle at the Smith Haven Mall was over Wednesday night, the Holbrook teen had added a notch to his brown belt, and two of his assailants, police said, were taken away in handcuffs.

"They messed with the wrong guy," said John Jr. "They weren't really much of a challenge. "

It started about 9:15 p.m. at the main entrance to the Lake Grove shopping complex, where John Jr. and a group of his friends were leaving after shopping, he said.

Waiting for his ride home in the parking lot, John Jr. carried no shopping bags. But the gold chain and cross pendant across his neck attracted an older teen who stood over six feet tall.

"Give me the chain," the older teen snapped before trying to grab the jewelry, John Jr. said.

John Jr. pushed him away, and then knocked him to the ground, he said. The older teen left, he said, and John Jr. used his cell phone to call his dad.

But the attacker caught up with John Jr. at the other side of the mall parking lot, jumping out of a silver two-door sedan with three other teens.

The Sachem North High School junior, who is 5-foot-11 and weighs 170 pounds, said he used "basic karate" he began learning from his father at the age of 5.

A friend and fellow student at the karate studio, Anthony McManus, 17, briefly tussled with one of the men, John Jr. said.

"They all had crowbars with them," he said. "I blocked them with my forearm. "

Fourth Precinct police said they arrested two Suffolk teens in the incident.

Anthony Frezza, 18, was charged with attempted assault and resisting arrest, while Robert Chebuske, 18, was charged with attempted grand larceny, police said.

Two others bolted before officers got there, John Jr. said.

"I think the best thing to say about this is that you were a well-prepared man," sensei John Benedict Sr., 41, said to his son afterward. "And criminals don't go after well-prepared men."

Copyright 2007 Newsday Inc.
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Here's their school's website.
http://www.seigidaidojo.com/
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Best part, this made Newsdays FRONT page.
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Scott, Could you keep your ears open about this one? This kid did real good but I get the feeling that the Newsday writer may be fluffing the story just a tiny bit.
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Sensei Benadict has Sanchin Belly :lol:

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Did he actually block them all with his fore arms, or did he block the arm that was holding the fore arm?


SOme pictures on bullshido surfaced....


He's a goju-ryu practitioner.

Sanchin!!!!
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Hazel Sanchez
Reporting

(CBS) NEW YORK John Benedict Jr. has been training in Yoshido Goju Karate since he could walk. His father and teacher, John Sr., has been by his side ever since. Now a 17-year-old brown belt, John Jr.'s dedication to martial arts has paid off after he helped fend off would-be muggers during a robbery attempt outside a local mall.

Benedict says he was leaving Smith Haven Mall in Bohemia on Long Island on Wednesday night with some friends when an older and much bigger teen approached him and demanded the gold chain he was wearing. Benedict refused to hand over the chain.

The teen then tried to punch Benedict, but instead found himself eating dirt when Benedict shoved him to the ground.

"If I didn't have karate, I would have been done," Benedict told CBS 2.

The melee wasn't quite over yet, however. The teen left and came back with a car full of other teens armed with crow bars and tire irons.

"These guys were really big, but it didn't really phase me. I wasn't really scared at all because when I train in my classes I fight against six or seven adults at the same time," Benedict said.

So with his very own strength, Benedict was able to fight off his attackers. His friend Anthony, who also recently took up karate, was able to chase away two of them. Police arrested the other two attackers.

"I think parents should be aware of what's out there today and teach your kids how to defend themselves. I'm not preaching violence, I'm saying these are bad times and we should make sure our children are prepared," Benedict Sr. said.

Benedict Jr. says by following the rules and philosophies of Karate, he had a perfect ending. He walked away with his gold chain and no one was seriously hurt.

Police say one of the 18-year-olds arrested faces attempted assault charges. The other faces attempted grand larceny charges.

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I bet he did a 'one punch' kill on each of them.
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The account of what happened physically is sketchy to say the least, but I do get the feeling that the kid was able to hold it together because of his karate training. Outside of saying he pushed someone there is no mention of him or his friend actually hitting someone. Now there seems to also be a building up of the adversaries, but that could be a smart move by the kid to show he was the "victim".
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If I may...

I have been involved in a number of "self-defense" situations in my life.

This isn't the movies. You do what is necessary to walk away with your body intact, if not your dignity.

Some of what this guy says resonates with me. He talked about many-on-one randori practice in class. He's a Goju guy, BTW. Been there, done that - with my Goju/aikido instructor.

What you get with the experience is first a control of self. You've been there. You've gotten the schitt kicked out of you in class and/or humiliated on many occasions when you tried this many-on-one stuff. And you lived to talk about it. Now you have 4 untrained punks coming at you. You size them up quickly, and see they don't hold a candle to the trained fighters you work with every day - even with crowbars.

My friend Rory at that moment would be experiencing his transformation from Dr. Jeckl to Mr. Hyde - all while flashing a sly grin. Oh boy... I get to play with some goons today. 8)

These weren't worthy fighters. The young man figured that out quickly. And he was smart not to be a hero about it. He did what he needed to do to walk away from the situation.

Good...

You want blood and guts? You want ambulances carrying away mangled corpses? Well you're going to need an Art Rabesa or some similar born fighter for that.

But it happens... ;)

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