A PETA story

[Chris McKaskell]

Coming back to the idea of using human breast milk to make commercial ice cream:

Isn't there some kind of a social taboo about stuff like that?

Maybe I'm too repressed, but it seems to me that sort of ambrosia is for kids only!

Why would they even suggest it? Just to get a reaction?

Stooopid marketing IMHO.

[TSDguy]

It worked in The Grapes of Wrath.

[Jason Rees]

Chris, it was to get people to think and compare mass cow milking to mass human milking, thus evoking sympathy for their favorite bovine victim.

[Bill Glasheen]

You boys are touching my heart. I think I'm going to cry.

{siffle}

Here's a a few photos for our PeTA whackos to enjoy.

This is a beautiful wolf.



This is a pack of wolves, enjoying a Bambi Burger.



A1 steak sauce anyone?

- Bill

[JimHawkins]

Bill,

Taboos aside, is there any legitimacy to suggesting folks consume human milk over cows milk from a health perspective?

[Bill Glasheen]

For babies, human breast milk is always better. The big reason is because mom's antibodies make it through the baby's GI tract and into the baby's system. Thus while baby is growing and still has a somewhat immature immune system, mom's compliment of antibodies can protect him/her.

There are some allergy and nutrient tolerance issues associated with cow's milk vs. human milk. For most of European ancestry, this isn't a problem. For others, it could be a problem. Many whole ethnic groups are lactose intolerant. Lactose is a sugar found in cow's milk in high concentrations. Most people get a little lactose intolerant with age These days they have tablets you can chew (lactase - an enzyme) which will fix that.

Depending on diet, mom may have more omega-3 fatty acids in her breast milk than can be found in cow's milk.

Another product that bodybuilders rave about is colostrum - the first fluid an animal and/or human produces from their breasts when they deliver. It is a relatively clear fluid that has both immune system antibodies and some anabolic substances which kick-start junior after (s)he is born.

- Bill

[mhosea]

A1 steak sauce anyone?

Of course not, Bill. No self-respecting wolf would defile a fresh-kill Bambi burger with A1 steak sauce. You might as well suggest ketchup.

BTW, this is pretty funny. I don't know the details behind it. As I recall it was something about a guy getting a peta.com or peta.org or something like that domain name and teasing PETA.

http://ultamatom.ytmnd.com/

[AAAhmed46]

Don't be surprised if there is a backlash against the PETA from ANON or something like that.

[Topos]

Thank you, Jason, for " ... udderly rediculous notion of mass milking women". We rare but intelligently witty punsters must acknowledge each other when others groan and moan at us.

PETA is not a fun loving kitty petting, dog hugging group. As many on this forum express they are a home grown terrorist organization. I am looking forward to the day when they can be placed on the endangered species list.

[Jason Rees]

I imagine that campaign contributions from PETA are pretty hefty in places like California and New York. Maybe an opponent can use this by drawing that info out in the open. Until Congress is weaned off the teat of lefties like these, groups like PETA are going to get fat and comfortable, like the parasites they are. At least ticks disengage when they're gorged.

[Laird2]

Tell us how you really feel Jason!

It's an urban disease, folks disconected with the natural order of things. When one starts having emotional issues with what appears on their plate I suspect they have lost their way.

[AAAhmed46]

Another gem by MADDOX.

http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=grill




Guiltless grill? Is there another kind?

I was looking over a menu in a restaurant the other day when I saw a section for vegetarians; I thought to myself "boy, I sure am glad that I'm not a meat-hating fascist" and I skipped on to the steak section (because I'll be damned if I'm going to pay $15 for an alfalfa sandwich, slice of cucumber and a scoop of cold cottage cheese), but before I turned the page something caught my eye. The heading of the vegetarian section was titled "Guiltless Grill," not because there were menu items with fewer calories and cholesterol (since there were "healthy" chicken dishes discriminated against in this section), but because none of the items used animal products. Think about that phrase for a second. What exactly does "guiltless grill" imply? So I'm supposed to feel guilty now if I eat meat? Screw you.

What pisses me off so much about this phrase is the sheer narrow-mindedness of these stuck up vegetarian assholes. You think you're saving the world by eating a tofu-burger and sticking to a diet of grains and berries? Well here's something that not many vegetarians know (or care to acknowledge): every year millions of animals are killed by wheat and soy bean combines during harvesting season (source:
http://web.archive.org/web/200411070845 ... vegan.html). Oh yeah, go on and on for hours about how all of us meat eaters are going to hell for having a steak, but conveniently ignore the fact that each year millions of mice, rabbits, snakes, skunks, possums, squirrels, gophers and rats are ruthlessly murdered as a direct result of YOUR dieting habits. What's that? I'm sorry, I don't hear any more elitist banter from you pompous cocks. Could it be because your ##### has been RUINED?

That's right: the gloves have come off. The vegetarian response to this embarrassing fact is "well, at least we're not killing intentionally." So let me get this straight; not only are animals ruthlessly being murdered as a direct result of your diet, but you're not even using the meat of the animals YOU kill? At least we're eating the animals we kill (and although we also contribute to the slaughter of animals during grain harvesting, keep in mind that we're not the ones with a moral qualm about it), not just leaving them to rot in a field somewhere. That makes you just as morally repugnant than any meat-eater any day. Not only that, but you're killing free-roaming animals, not animals that were raised for feed. Their bodies get mangled in the combine's machinery, bones crushed, and you have the audacity to point fingers at the meat industry for humanely punching a spike through a cow's neck? If you think that tofu burgers come at no cost to animals or the environment, guess again.

To even suggest that your meal is some how "guiltless" is absurd. The defense "at least we're not killing intentionally" is bullshit anyway. How is it not intentional if you KNOW that millions of animals die every year in combines during harvest? You expect me to believe that you somehow unintentionally pay money to buy products that support farmers that use combines to harvest their fields? Even if it was somehow unintentional, so what? That suddenly makes you innocent? I guess we should let drunk drivers off the hook too since they don't kill intentionally either, right? There's no way out of this one. The only option left for you dipshits is to buy some land, plant and pick your own crops. Impractical? Yeah, well, so is your stupid diet.

Even if combines aren't used to harvest your food, you think that buying fruits and vegetables (organic or otherwise) is any better? How do you think they get rid of bugs that eat crops in large fields? You think they just put up signs and ask parasites to politely go somewhere else? Actually, I wouldn't put that suggestion past you hippies. One of the methods they use to get rid of pests is to introduce a high level of predators for each particular prey, which wreaks all sorts of havoc on the natural balance of predator/prey populations--causing who knows what kind of damage to the environment. Oops, did I just expose you moral-elitists for being frauds? Damndest thing.

A number of people have pointed out that the amount of grain grown to feed animals for slaughter every year is greater than the amount of grain grown for humans. So I guess the amount of grain grown for human consumption suddenly becomes negligible and we can conveniently ignore the fact that animals are still ruthlessly murdered either way because of your diet, right? Not to mention that the majority of grain grown for livestock is tough as rocks, coarse, and so low-grade that it's only fit for animal consumption in the first place. Spare me the "you could feed 500 people with the grain used to feed one cow" line of #####; it's not the same grain. Then there are the people who jump on the bandwagon with "you could plant billions of potatoes on the land used for cows"--good point, except for the fact that not every plot of land is equally fertile; you think farmers always have a choice on what they do with their land? Also, many vegetarians don't know (or care to acknowledge) that in many parts of the United States they have "control hunts" in which hunting permits are passed out whenever there is a pest problem (the pest here is deer, elk and antelope) that threatens wheat, soy, vegetable and other crops; this happens several times per year. Then some of you throw out claims that "we are trying to limit the suffering." How about you limit MY suffering and shut the hell up about your stupid diet for a change; nobody cares. Even if the number of animals that die in combine deaths every year isn't in the millions, even if it's just one, are you suggesting that the life of one baby rabbit isn't worth saving? Are you placing a value on life? Enjoy your tofu, murderers.

Read what PETA has to say about this article.

Sources:
TIME Magazine, July 15 2002, Pg. 56

Steven Davis, professor of animal science at Oregon State University (at least one study has shown that simply mowing an alfalfa field caused a 50% reduction in the gray-tailed vole population): full article

Least Harm Principle suggests that Humans should eat beef not vegan., first published in the Proceedings of Third Congress of the European Society for Agricultural and Food Ethics, 2001

[Jason Rees]

Ah... now we know what prompted the hate mail. I'm beginning to like this character.

[AAAhmed46]

Ah... now we know what prompted the hate mail. I'm beginning to like this character.

He hates everyone and everything.

He created his website just as clinton was leaving office, so he TORE HIM APART while he was in office.

Then he took shots at George bush jr.

Now, whoever will be president next, will take a taste of maddox, democrat or republican.

But it's NOT a political blog...rather just an angry angry armenian.


Who's REALLY damn funny.


He wrote a book called "the Alphabet of Manliness" best seller, search for it on Amazon.

[TSDguy]

Just to give an example of how "angry" he is, one of my favorite article from him is where he judges kindergarteners artwork... well I'll just leave it at that. You can guess the results.

Another classic is the "have you considered suicide?" article.