Jim, yet again, I agree. It's just that calling the mindset of comittment "Ikken Hissatsu" and conversely calling "Ikken Hissatsu" the mindset excises parts of the total concept that I associate with Ikken Hissatsu, notably the concept of incapacitating your opponent with a single blow. If Ikken Hissatsu is only mechanics, targeting, focus, and commitment, then there's not much room for this "single" property. Instead it becomes an "every" or at least "usually", and I don't think that captures the meaning of the term. The mindset of commitment, targeting and all that was something that always existed in Okinawan Karate, but at some point was added a connotation of success if you are good enough. I.e., if you have the proper focus, mechanics, commitment, and targeting, the strike delivered this way will have the intended effect, it will be the one strike that ends the fight, and if it doesn't it's because you weren't good enough, so train harder.JimHawkins wrote: Isn't (an attack) really made up of many actions? Is not the intent being discussed here to be maintained throughout all these actions of our attack?
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Mixed in with the witch's brew of factors that make up ikken hisatsu is the natural aversion to killing - for most humans. Wolves like the sociopaths found in maximum security prisons and sheepdogs like Rory don't have as much aversion to "pulling the trigger" if you will. But most (85% +/-) do. As such, ikken hisatsu can be about the operant conditioning necessary to have people engage in potentially lethal actions with the efficiency of a low-brain response.
Veni, vidi, vici.
Easier said than done - which is why it's such an allusive concept for most. The safety must be removed; techniques must flow like rounds from a Glock.
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Veni, vidi, vici.
Easier said than done - which is why it's such an allusive concept for most. The safety must be removed; techniques must flow like rounds from a Glock.
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"Absolute focus in one instant. Hitting to hit, hitting to hurt and hitting to crush and destroy all feel different even if you are using the exact same technique. Total commitment to a single action. It is a mindset.
I don't quite understand this
........I haven't had a fight in a long time 
but thinking back to my Aikido days, and even now with my sifu..I know that tension, aggression doesn't really deliver the goods....looks great in Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3NmaYu2Kvc
look at this technique.....Now
imagine dropping to your knees and doing it..............on concrete.....feels just the same ( for the defender) I would imagine but somehow not the same for the attacker 
"Absolute focus in one instant. Hitting to hit, hitting to hurt and hitting to crush and destroy all feel different even if you are using the exact same technique. Total commitment to a single action. It is a mindset.
I don't quite understand this
........I haven't had a fight in a long time but thinking back to my Aikido days, and even now with my sifu..I know that tension, aggression doesn't really deliver the goods....looks great in Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3NmaYu2Kvc
look at this technique.....Now
imagine dropping to your knees and doing it..............on concrete.....feels just the same ( for the defender) I would imagine but somehow not the same for the attacker -
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jorvik wrote:Quote
"Absolute focus in one instant. Hitting to hit, hitting to hurt and hitting to crush and destroy all feel different even if you are using the exact same technique. Total commitment to a single action. It is a mindset.
I don't quite understand this
but thinking back to my Aikido days, and even now with my sifu..I know that tension, aggression doesn't really deliver the goods....looks great in Demos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3NmaYu2Kvc
look at this technique.....Now
Ooooo I think I saw him slap a kick around 1:27....
Ray...
I don't think tension has much to do with this mindset... Total commitment means just that, focus.... Just don't get caught in the moment and stop....
While it's been suggested that this applies to singular actions I can easily apply it to more than a single action.
Since it is a mindset it can't be limited by actions.. An action is an artificial construct IMO who's separateness from the whole is only a matter of perception and breaking down time into artificial parts.. This is a wholly subjective view since time and actions/in-actions are really completely fluid..
IOW: Hold that thought...
Shaolin
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"Receive what comes, stay with what goes, upon loss of contact attack the line" – The Kuen Kuit
M Y V T K F
"Receive what comes, stay with what goes, upon loss of contact attack the line" – The Kuen Kuit
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jorvik
Jim
The thought in aikido, the principle is " The head follows the body"......see the way the guys are whirling around when Tissier grabs them, it's not phony.it's not false..I can do that a 100 out of a 100.and I'm nowhere near as good as he is......point is he can put your head through concrete when he does it.blood ,splatter .ouch
. I think that it would work well with the chun.but that's for a later date 
oh BTW this is the one throw that O'Sensei is supposed to have invented himself.all the others are from Daito-Ryu and modified
The thought in aikido, the principle is " The head follows the body"......see the way the guys are whirling around when Tissier grabs them, it's not phony.it's not false..I can do that a 100 out of a 100.and I'm nowhere near as good as he is......point is he can put your head through concrete when he does it.blood ,splatter .ouch
. I think that it would work well with the chun.but that's for a later date oh BTW this is the one throw that O'Sensei is supposed to have invented himself.all the others are from Daito-Ryu and modified
