...and secondly I wouldn't be caught dead wearing "whatever" THAT person has underneath that kilt!!!
(Everyone knows a true Scots na'er wears bloomers! ... although those kinda look like camies!!!!)
Rotator Cuff
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Bill Glasheen
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Mary
Given that the caber toss starts at groin level, and a good pole may have a few splinters that might "catch" the kilt on the way up and out, I can see why:
a) that woman chose to have...whatever...under her kilt (damn...), and,
b) I really don't want to be watching when a "true Scot" (of the male variety) gets caught in that same pose...
Nope...don't want to go there. Nosirreee.
- Bill
Given that the caber toss starts at groin level, and a good pole may have a few splinters that might "catch" the kilt on the way up and out, I can see why:
a) that woman chose to have...whatever...under her kilt (damn...), and,
b) I really don't want to be watching when a "true Scot" (of the male variety) gets caught in that same pose...
Nope...don't want to go there. Nosirreee.- Bill
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Bill Glasheen
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I had an MRI a few weeks ago, and it showed a partially torn rotator cuff. My daughter, Cory, who just finished a doctorate in physical therapy, said that a fully torn rotator cuff is much less painful. Of course, once the connection is entirely broken, your arm just hangs there. My symptoms were quite gradual, but the deterioration was constant. In the beginning, I was able to do light arm rubbing and fairly good sanchin thrusting. My biggest problem was some trouble extending my arm over my head. Now, it is very painful to get a tee shirt on and off, if I roll over on my right side, I have immediate pain and wake up, and I feel discomfort even turning my key in the door lock.
I am scheduled for x-rays and a meeting with the surgeon on 1/21. I am hoping to be a candidate for arthroscopic surgery, but I may have to have open surgery. The recovery time can be many months.
I am scheduled for x-rays and a meeting with the surgeon on 1/21. I am hoping to be a candidate for arthroscopic surgery, but I may have to have open surgery. The recovery time can be many months.
Harvey I sympathize with both you and your daughter. I wish in a way there was a quick fix for me. I have spent two months now with some pretty intense and painful physio treatments...everything from physical manipulation of the muscles in my shoulder girdle, "popping" upper ribs back into place, heat, cold, exercises, acupunture, acupunture with electric current, massage theraphy, taping up the shoulder for 12 hour shifts, and drugs.
Wednesday of this week was my first day without pain. The pain ranged from specific shoulder, forearm, neckarea to headache pain.
One day hopefully will soon lead to another. I hope things aren't too bad for both of you.
Wednesday of this week was my first day without pain. The pain ranged from specific shoulder, forearm, neckarea to headache pain.
One day hopefully will soon lead to another. I hope things aren't too bad for both of you.
Mary: thanks for the sympathy. My daughter is fine. In fact, she just delivered an 8lb 12 oz boy and Boston Bruins fan that she is, named him Cam. I was in the kind of shape you describe, except that you seem to be saying that you are improving. It is pretty clear that my injury is going to keep getting worse, though, I will not know for sure until I see the surgeon on the 21st. If I learn anything useful, I will report back. In any event, if you stop improving, or do not improve quickly enough, you might want to arrange for an MRI.
Okay, my surgery is set for February 10th. He thinks he can do an arthroscopy, but said there was about a 30% chance that he would have to do a partial, open surgery, and about a 10% chance that the cuff would be torn enough to require total, open surgery. If I need total, open surgery, he will have to sew it up, and re-schedule after the swelling goes down. The surgeon does gungfu and knows how much I care about having the shoulder just so. I will keep you informed with regard to the operation and the post-operative therapy, since everyone is a potential candidate for rotator cuff tears.
I am told that the operation takes a couple of hours and that I have to go under general anesthesia. I do not know what the chances are of going brain-dead from the anesthesia, but I have a few friends left in government who assure me that I can have my old job back, if I obtain that new qualification.
I am told that the operation takes a couple of hours and that I have to go under general anesthesia. I do not know what the chances are of going brain-dead from the anesthesia, but I have a few friends left in government who assure me that I can have my old job back, if I obtain that new qualification.
Harvey, I wish you all the best on your surgery and hopefully your recovery time will be very short.
I'm still going through "other means" although my physiotherapist left to join Circe d'Soliel (as a therapist not a performer) I still go to the sports clinic where he was for deep massage therapy - did one and the therapist recommended epsom salt bath after - of course I didn't do this and was in agony the day after. I had a massage today and she found some trigger points just under the shoulder blade and in the armpit area, recommended another epsom salt bath tonight and I plan to be swimming in it later!!
Please let me know how things work out on the 10th!! Mar
I'm still going through "other means" although my physiotherapist left to join Circe d'Soliel (as a therapist not a performer) I still go to the sports clinic where he was for deep massage therapy - did one and the therapist recommended epsom salt bath after - of course I didn't do this and was in agony the day after. I had a massage today and she found some trigger points just under the shoulder blade and in the armpit area, recommended another epsom salt bath tonight and I plan to be swimming in it later!!
Please let me know how things work out on the 10th!!
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Thanks to you both. Actually, this surgeon is one of about eight, who operate on Boston's professional sports teams. (Yankee fans, etc., just save it. I am not going to be drawn into that discussion). I had two names from each of the major programs: Brigham, Mass General, and NE Babtist. I called all six surgeons and took the first appointment I could get.
There are people who do not have to learn everything the hard way. I am not one of them. I had my rotator cuff arthroscopy on Monday. He made four, small incisions into my shoulder and re-attached the supraspinatus tendon to the bone. It hurts like hell!
For a lengthy, but good, technical explanation see http://www.scoi.com/cuffdise.htm
My operation took about two and a half hours and, though the anesthetic was the same as what they gave me for my knee surgery, there was more of it and for the next few hours I became dizzy when I moved. I was heavily trussed in both a sling and a cryo-cuff (a kind of shoulder pad connected to a thermos filled with ice-water, that works on gravity to keep ice on the shoulder). The pain was bearable, and I took only two of the 80 oxycodones he prescribed. However, sleeping was impossible, I think as much from the constant cramping of keeping the shoulder in a tight, "pledge of allegiance" position. The second day, I got up feeling better and thought I would not need another oxycodone. By noon, I was back on the pill and desperate to reach the surgeon's office to see if I could get out of the sling. At 6:00 p.m., a resident called me back and said I could adjust the sling and straighten my arm to do three sets of 20 circular rotations (fingers facing the floor) three times a day. That helped a lot.
I have since talked to other people who had the operation and some of them were out of the slings much faster. There is obviously a difference of opinion among surgeons on this point. A nurse from the surgical center called to check on me right after the resident hung up and I asked her if I could take the sling off and simply leave my arm on a pillow for sleeping. She said some doctors said yes, but mine said no. The second night, I took a sleeping pill, which I had not done the first night, because I was afraid of becoming nauseous. I slept through the night and felt great in the morning. By 11:30, I was back on the pill. But with the pill, I felt fine. I removed the bandages and took a shower, passed an easy day, took another sleeping pill and passed an easy third night.
This is the fourth day and I still need the damn pills. I am eager to make the switch to wine, but so far, no luck. I do not know how much range of motion I have, because I am not allowed to experiment, but I will try to keep track of major changes. The reference I provided from the Southern California Orthopedic Institute suggests that sometimes there may be problems with avoiding surgery, when the body trys to repair itself.
For a lengthy, but good, technical explanation see http://www.scoi.com/cuffdise.htm
My operation took about two and a half hours and, though the anesthetic was the same as what they gave me for my knee surgery, there was more of it and for the next few hours I became dizzy when I moved. I was heavily trussed in both a sling and a cryo-cuff (a kind of shoulder pad connected to a thermos filled with ice-water, that works on gravity to keep ice on the shoulder). The pain was bearable, and I took only two of the 80 oxycodones he prescribed. However, sleeping was impossible, I think as much from the constant cramping of keeping the shoulder in a tight, "pledge of allegiance" position. The second day, I got up feeling better and thought I would not need another oxycodone. By noon, I was back on the pill and desperate to reach the surgeon's office to see if I could get out of the sling. At 6:00 p.m., a resident called me back and said I could adjust the sling and straighten my arm to do three sets of 20 circular rotations (fingers facing the floor) three times a day. That helped a lot.
I have since talked to other people who had the operation and some of them were out of the slings much faster. There is obviously a difference of opinion among surgeons on this point. A nurse from the surgical center called to check on me right after the resident hung up and I asked her if I could take the sling off and simply leave my arm on a pillow for sleeping. She said some doctors said yes, but mine said no. The second night, I took a sleeping pill, which I had not done the first night, because I was afraid of becoming nauseous. I slept through the night and felt great in the morning. By 11:30, I was back on the pill. But with the pill, I felt fine. I removed the bandages and took a shower, passed an easy day, took another sleeping pill and passed an easy third night.
This is the fourth day and I still need the damn pills. I am eager to make the switch to wine, but so far, no luck. I do not know how much range of motion I have, because I am not allowed to experiment, but I will try to keep track of major changes. The reference I provided from the Southern California Orthopedic Institute suggests that sometimes there may be problems with avoiding surgery, when the body trys to repair itself.
Harvey, first things first, so glad that the operation went smoothly!!
I assume the anesthetic you had was "local"? Having had knee surgery way back in my teen years, I totally understand that dizzy feeling - nothing worse than being sick on the operating table (TRUST ME!!).
The website you reference is excellent. Thank you.
I know you are probably "itching" to get back into the swing of things (no pun intended) but just keep in mind the healing is NOT a race and although some people heal quicker than others, you should only worry about you right now.
Take care and keep us posted!
Mar
I assume the anesthetic you had was "local"? Having had knee surgery way back in my teen years, I totally understand that dizzy feeling - nothing worse than being sick on the operating table (TRUST ME!!).
The website you reference is excellent. Thank you.
I know you are probably "itching" to get back into the swing of things (no pun intended) but just keep in mind the healing is NOT a race and although some people heal quicker than others, you should only worry about you right now.
Take care and keep us posted!
Mar
