Honestly... I would pay a premium for good tango lessons...
I took ballroom dancing lessons once but I had a crumby partner (The Sea Hag, my ex). She was the worst dancer ever and she really cramped my style...
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Tony,
They have Argentine tango groups in Florida. Not too expensive and hosting top instructors from Argentina.
Or you could try this_ best way to go
http://www.aaanetserv.com/tango/
George,
Nice shot of Gary Geddes and co.
Top flight instructor_ a Maloney disciple.
They have Argentine tango groups in Florida. Not too expensive and hosting top instructors from Argentina.
Or you could try this_ best way to go
http://www.aaanetserv.com/tango/
George,
Nice shot of Gary Geddes and co.
Top flight instructor_ a Maloney disciple.
Van
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Spinning Wheel Kick
Van Wrote:
The guys I've fought will often mask the spinning backkick with some kind of fake, often a left circle block up around your face area.
In dojo matches I've learned who the spinning kickers are and I can pick up a drop in their right shoulder when they start to turn. (That is when the kicker is in a left foot forward stance.)
Sometimes I can catch or scoop the kick. Sometimes I can scoot to my right and avoid.
Sometimes I get hit and you are right they can be incredibly fast kicks.
What I think works for me is not setting myself up ever by always circling in the same direction, usually counterclockwise, and establishing a predictible pattern. I'll dart left to right and right to left and switch stances, too, So sometimes they miss just because I'm not predictible.
The traditional rooted Uechi sanchin stance needs some modification if you want to survive in tournament competition. You have to be able to raise either heel and push off the ball of the foot forward or to either side or back. IMHO a step back can often set up somebody rushing in on you for an impailing technique like a snap front kick, side kick or straight centerline punch.
As to the spinning wheel kick_ I have faced it from top TKD/TSD fighters in competition, and believe me when I say it_those fighters will set you up for it and you won’t even see it coming.
The guys I've fought will often mask the spinning backkick with some kind of fake, often a left circle block up around your face area.
In dojo matches I've learned who the spinning kickers are and I can pick up a drop in their right shoulder when they start to turn. (That is when the kicker is in a left foot forward stance.)
Sometimes I can catch or scoop the kick. Sometimes I can scoot to my right and avoid.
Sometimes I get hit and you are right they can be incredibly fast kicks.
What I think works for me is not setting myself up ever by always circling in the same direction, usually counterclockwise, and establishing a predictible pattern. I'll dart left to right and right to left and switch stances, too, So sometimes they miss just because I'm not predictible.
The traditional rooted Uechi sanchin stance needs some modification if you want to survive in tournament competition. You have to be able to raise either heel and push off the ball of the foot forward or to either side or back. IMHO a step back can often set up somebody rushing in on you for an impailing technique like a snap front kick, side kick or straight centerline punch.
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Re: Spinning Wheel Kick
My buddy Steve, a serious TKD fighter with a couple years of boxing has knockout power in his spinning kicks. He doesn't use them in sparring often because they are either all or nothing and very dangerous. However, in drills, we would chase him with focus mitts and the methods he used to created distance to hit that target with that kick are just amazing. I know theres alot of talk about stepping back and jump in the fire and all this stuff.. but man, let me tell you, Steve is great at it! He will actually run away from you with his back to you and turn it into a spinning kick.. and you have no idea how much power he has until he knocks the wind out of you.John Giacoletti wrote:back. IMHO a step back can often set up somebody rushing in on you for an impailing technique like a snap front kick, side kick or straight centerline punch.
Steves TKD is alot different then most... he trained with several karate guys for over 3 years and learned alot of lessons. He hits very hard and kicks in the legs, hah hah!
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I lost a tournament match to a guy who did this to me. He would elicit the chase instinct, and then impale you when you came at him. It was a classic "moth into the flame" principle in practice.Tony wrote: Steve is great at it! He will actually run away from you with his back to you and turn it into a spinning kick.. and you have no idea how much power he has until he knocks the wind out of you.
I never say never!
When you can teach one of these distance fighters an inside game, they are almost impossible to beat. I've had great fun in my teaching life working with TKD/TSD/Hapkido black belts. Uechi and these kicks combined are a deadly combination.
- Bill
The spinning back kick was one of my favorite weapons, after watching Chuck Norris at the All American totally demolish our Moto Yamakura, Japan's collegiate champion.
And 'demolishing' it proved to be in tournaments.
Walter Mattson put a 'jump and spin' into it, and some of his opponents were TKO'd_
Funny thing, at times we see some making fun of TKD/TSD
fighters or style_ usually it is by the ones who have never stepped into the ring and faced fighters from Henry Cho_ J. Rhee_ etc.
Those kicks can 'knife' right through Uechi blocks and take you out in a split second.
And 'demolishing' it proved to be in tournaments.
Walter Mattson put a 'jump and spin' into it, and some of his opponents were TKO'd_
Funny thing, at times we see some making fun of TKD/TSD
fighters or style_ usually it is by the ones who have never stepped into the ring and faced fighters from Henry Cho_ J. Rhee_ etc.
Those kicks can 'knife' right through Uechi blocks and take you out in a split second.
Van
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Jumping spin
We had a brown belt in the old Mahone Bay dojo who developed the jump spin on his own and as his timing developed so did his power. He took out a much larger man in a street fight with a preemptive kick to the face, the other just helped his bloodied buddy back into the car. Witnesses claim he was in air when the kick landed and the "victim" was walking forward when struck and seemed like his legs kept going as his head snaped back. I can`t spin kick but respect the ability of those who can.
Léo
