This is a great conditioning drill we shuffle into our conditioning regimin about once a week.
Partner-up on an experience parity basis. You will switch back and forth in 30 second intervals for four punching/receiving exercises.
Begin in a sparring stance. You're wearing gloves. You will move freely with your partner as in actural sparring. The Receiver begins with arms raised to protect the sides of the head but with elbows still protecting the rib cage. The purpose is to strengthen the soulders and expose the mid-section. The Puncher begins with left jabs only for 30 seconds only to the mid section. The Receiver may move, circling about, moving in to jam a punch or to the sides. You want a good aerobic workout and the pupose is to receive the punch at various distances and angles. With each hit you tighten the abdominal muscles. The Puncher's role is to make contact with conditioning as the goal and not devestation. After 30 seconds, the partners switch roles.
The 2nd exercise kicks in after the first minute expires. The Puncher fires left jabs each followed by a right cross. Vary the tempo here and move the punches over the abdominal area, side to side and vetically. The Puncher should also adjust the intensity levels of the combinations. After 30 seconds you'll switch Receiver and Puncher roles as before. The Puncher will begin to experience slight fatigue from throwing the punches.
Next, part Three. The Puncher delivers a left jab, right cross, left hook combination. The Receiver is getting lots of ab tightening contractions. The Receiver still moves and the Puncher is still working the Receiver's mid-section, up and down, right side to left. At the end of the three minutes both partners should be experiencing fatigue. The Puncher realizes that edurance demands an appropriate pacing over the four parts of the exercise. Again, it's two intervals of 30 seconds each, switching Receiver and Puncher roles.
Finally, the fourth part. This time it's left jab, right cross, left hook, right upper cut. Same routine as before. The drill reinforces the need to punch in combinations and be prepared to receive those punching fluries with different intensity levels and from different angles.
After four minutes, both partners should haave a good sweat going, and you can move on to something more civilized like shin conditioning bone on bone, arm pounding (pounding not touching or tapping) or arm swinging with forearm slams. For some reason the arm rubbing and flow-type drills haven't caught on in our dojo. But they certainly could be worked in as desired on a lite training day.
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I'm sorry John, but I'm having trouble linking the concepts of "Uechi Ryu" and "sparring". You mention "sparring stance". In seven years of Uechi Ryu training I have never been introduced to this term.
Also, "wearing gloves". What kind of Uechi Ryu is performed wearing gloves, and what kind of gloves would these be?
Uechi Ryu as I know it uses primarily open-hand positions.
I occasionally wear biking gloves, while biking. Would these suffice?
The fingers are open but the palms are padded.
You mentioned: "The Receiver begins with arms raised to protect the sides of the head but with elbows still protecting the rib cage."
I'm not sure what this refers to. What Uechi techniques accomplish this?
Does Sanchin teach raising the arms to protect the head?
Finally, you refer to some boxing-related terms such as right-cross, jab, etc.
Is this some new Uechi-Boxing program that you have going, like, are you applying boxing and ring skills to Uechi Ryu training?
Is this like Tai Bo?
Is it for competition purposes, or personal training, or personal self defense, or what is it for?
Sorry if this sounds dumb-a$$ but I can't get the sense of the thread, please excuse my inexperience.
Thanks!
NM
Also, "wearing gloves". What kind of Uechi Ryu is performed wearing gloves, and what kind of gloves would these be?
Uechi Ryu as I know it uses primarily open-hand positions.
I occasionally wear biking gloves, while biking. Would these suffice?
The fingers are open but the palms are padded.
You mentioned: "The Receiver begins with arms raised to protect the sides of the head but with elbows still protecting the rib cage."
I'm not sure what this refers to. What Uechi techniques accomplish this?
Does Sanchin teach raising the arms to protect the head?
Finally, you refer to some boxing-related terms such as right-cross, jab, etc.
Is this some new Uechi-Boxing program that you have going, like, are you applying boxing and ring skills to Uechi Ryu training?
Is this like Tai Bo?
Is it for competition purposes, or personal training, or personal self defense, or what is it for?
Sorry if this sounds dumb-a$$ but I can't get the sense of the thread, please excuse my inexperience.
Thanks!
NM
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Where have you been? Every Uechi belt test I've seen requires sparring.I'm having trouble linking the concepts of "Uechi Ryu" and "sparring". You mention "sparring stance". In seven years of Uechi Ryu training I have never been introduced to this term.
Check out the equipment catalogs. Padded gloves with open fingers as you referred to as "biking gloves." If you don't want to wear gloves for this particular exercise, that's o.k.Also, "wearing gloves". What kind of Uechi Ryu is performed wearing gloves, and what kind of gloves would these be?
The right and left arm positions used to block a roundhouse kick to the head works fine. If you raise your arms a bit from Sanchin that will work, too. If you spar and if you don't want to protect your head by raising your arms from Sanchin, be my guest.You mentioned: "The Receiver begins with arms raised to protect the sides of the head but with elbows still protecting the rib cage."
I'm not sure what this refers to. What Uechi techniques accomplish this?
Does Sanchin teach raising the arms to protect the head?
Nothing new about this. Do you want to get your body in condition or study lexicography?Finally, you refer to some boxing-related terms such as right-cross, jab, etc.
Is this some new Uechi-Boxing program that you have going, like, are you applying boxing and ring skills to Uechi Ryu training?
Thanks!Sorry if this sounds dumb-a$$ but I can't get the sense of the thread, please excuse my inexperience.
You're excused. May your next seven years of experience enrich your journey.
Thanks John!
We do a different thing than what I would call sparring.
We have a scenario where for two minutes the attacker can assault you with whatever techniques they desire, and you have to defend yourself using ONLY Uechi techniques.
Then we switch roles.
We don't wear any gear except cups, and we don't all wear them.
What I meant about your post was that it employs what I would take to mean boxing-type techniques with boxing stances ("sparring stance"), I don't know what else a "sparring stance" would be. Is it different from a Uechi self-defense stance?
I was confused about boxing applications in Uechi training because it would seem like only a person who had trained in boxing would be able to perform this drill.
For example I've never trained boxing so if you told me to do a "jab-right cross-uppercut "combination"" for example I wouldn't know what that was.
So, I thought you had a new mix of boxing/Uechi that you were using.
The first Dojo I trained in was the corner of a boxing /kick-boxing training hall with three rings, but we never used them, and never learned any boxing techniques.
NM
We do a different thing than what I would call sparring.
We have a scenario where for two minutes the attacker can assault you with whatever techniques they desire, and you have to defend yourself using ONLY Uechi techniques.
Then we switch roles.
We don't wear any gear except cups, and we don't all wear them.
What I meant about your post was that it employs what I would take to mean boxing-type techniques with boxing stances ("sparring stance"), I don't know what else a "sparring stance" would be. Is it different from a Uechi self-defense stance?
I was confused about boxing applications in Uechi training because it would seem like only a person who had trained in boxing would be able to perform this drill.
For example I've never trained boxing so if you told me to do a "jab-right cross-uppercut "combination"" for example I wouldn't know what that was.
So, I thought you had a new mix of boxing/Uechi that you were using.
The first Dojo I trained in was the corner of a boxing /kick-boxing training hall with three rings, but we never used them, and never learned any boxing techniques.
NM
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mmmnnn... was Master Uechi MMA before MMA was cool?
"We have a scenario where for two minutes the attacker can assault you with whatever techniques they desire, and you have to defend yourself using ONLY Uechi techniques."
Ha! Good luck. I saw a Uechi black belt with a quick round house able to hit other black belts in the head almost at will cause the kept their hands so damn low. I honestly think anybody with an explosive jab can drill you right in the face anytime they want if you only stand in sanchin. Have you played with a pro muy thai or boxer lately? Why only Uechi techniques? And what does that mean? Only Uechi techniques pre 1980? 1970? Ugh.
"We don't wear any gear except cups, and we don't all wear them."
Then you must not really hit each other. Cause when the tempo picks up you'll be praying for some padding. There's guys who drop bombs without even trying. Just comes natural. No offense to you or anybody in your dojo but I just don't understand. I had one "higher up" black belt mocking me about how light I hit one class and kept asking for more. I dropped him with one shot to the body. I was going light because we didn't have pads on. Guess he was from the too cool for protective equipment school.
I've only read a couple articles and one book about the history of our style but isn't it a mix of what the founder learned? Would you have listened to him then? Does the style evolve? Maybe I'm being a #### 'cause I'm having some serious doubts right now, but I just don't understand that attitude. You don't know how to throw a boxing combo? Nothing simpler. You'd learn it in two minutes. It's also quite effective.
Ha! Good luck. I saw a Uechi black belt with a quick round house able to hit other black belts in the head almost at will cause the kept their hands so damn low. I honestly think anybody with an explosive jab can drill you right in the face anytime they want if you only stand in sanchin. Have you played with a pro muy thai or boxer lately? Why only Uechi techniques? And what does that mean? Only Uechi techniques pre 1980? 1970? Ugh.
"We don't wear any gear except cups, and we don't all wear them."
Then you must not really hit each other. Cause when the tempo picks up you'll be praying for some padding. There's guys who drop bombs without even trying. Just comes natural. No offense to you or anybody in your dojo but I just don't understand. I had one "higher up" black belt mocking me about how light I hit one class and kept asking for more. I dropped him with one shot to the body. I was going light because we didn't have pads on. Guess he was from the too cool for protective equipment school.
I've only read a couple articles and one book about the history of our style but isn't it a mix of what the founder learned? Would you have listened to him then? Does the style evolve? Maybe I'm being a #### 'cause I'm having some serious doubts right now, but I just don't understand that attitude. You don't know how to throw a boxing combo? Nothing simpler. You'd learn it in two minutes. It's also quite effective.
I used to work out with an old psychopath who would have me lay across a bench and he'd drill me as hard as humanly possible in the abs with a medicine ball. Raising it above his head and slamming it down, four sets of ten. You'd think your guts were gonna come out your butt. It was crude and freakish looking to others i'm sure, but over a short period of time I learned to take just about any shot to the mid section as long as I saw it coming. Without that serious contact I don't think that I could have gotten there. Just a thought.
I'd love to try out your routine John. Sounds a little smarter than what we were doing.
I'd love to try out your routine John. Sounds a little smarter than what we were doing.
Hi Eric:
When you said:
"Ha! Good luck. I saw a Uechi black belt with a quick round house able to hit other black belts in the head almost at will cause the kept their hands so damn low. I honestly think anybody with an explosive jab can drill you right in the face anytime they want if you only stand in sanchin. Have you played with a pro muy thai or boxer lately? Why only Uechi techniques? And what does that mean? Only Uechi techniques pre 1980? 1970? Ugh."
You're right of course. Holding the hands low is not part of any Uechi technique I've learned, I think it's a flaw that people get into and fail to protect their head. But that's not Uechi Ryu's fault. That's the guy's fault for holding his hands too low!
I train with this short stocky guy who's able to kick high and fast also, it's an excellent challenge!
I never said I "stand in Sanchin" while someone takes a jab at me...this is how the great misunderstanding lives on. Sanchin is ALIVE, not rigid!
You ask "why only Uechi techniques"?
My answer is :"because I am training in Uechi Ryu".
No, I have not faced a Muay-Tai or whatever, because you know what? These aren't the people who start fights! Most Martial Arts trainees don't start fights!
You will probably NEVER have to defend yourself against a martial artist on the street or in any social-gathering situation!
Most of the "ones" I have faced were drunken idiots with a chip on their shoulder and lots of muscle, but minimal skills.
About the cups...I don't wear one walking down the street, I don't wear one playing in bars or going out, nor pads of any kind.
My point was that these things are used in "sparring" where both sides are whacking away in a consentual format.
In a real attack you won't have these conveniences, and it probably won't be a three-minute match with tap-out available.
I respect boxers and sparrers and I acknowledge the athletic and psychological challenges involved.
I also acknowledge the practise of sport Uechi and I said before it can be taught as a sport or as a self defense art.
Different disciplines apply.
I couldn't possibly strap on a huge outfit of body pad, gloves, etc. and then go out and trade whacks for three minute rounds -- but I greatly respect the ability of those who can.
In fact I think it's amazing.
But I couldn't do it, and I admit that.
I've never trained for it, and don't really think I'd want to.
That's just me.
What I'd much rather do is learn how to lay someone out in a real street-clothes encounter in a simulated-realistic situation. I've done lots of this.
I've also done some "non-simulated" if you know what I mean...and seen LOTS of it first hand.
It sure doesn't look like a sparring match.
My personal interest in Uechi is using and training the principles for personal self defense, not competition. This is just my personal goal and I'm lucky to have found a path that seems to be taking me there.
There is no "Good Luck" involved. It's more a matter of preparation for chaos, as I see it.
Half-developed boxing skills are no answer for half-developed Uechi skills.
NM
When you said:
"Ha! Good luck. I saw a Uechi black belt with a quick round house able to hit other black belts in the head almost at will cause the kept their hands so damn low. I honestly think anybody with an explosive jab can drill you right in the face anytime they want if you only stand in sanchin. Have you played with a pro muy thai or boxer lately? Why only Uechi techniques? And what does that mean? Only Uechi techniques pre 1980? 1970? Ugh."
You're right of course. Holding the hands low is not part of any Uechi technique I've learned, I think it's a flaw that people get into and fail to protect their head. But that's not Uechi Ryu's fault. That's the guy's fault for holding his hands too low!
I train with this short stocky guy who's able to kick high and fast also, it's an excellent challenge!
I never said I "stand in Sanchin" while someone takes a jab at me...this is how the great misunderstanding lives on. Sanchin is ALIVE, not rigid!
You ask "why only Uechi techniques"?
My answer is :"because I am training in Uechi Ryu".
No, I have not faced a Muay-Tai or whatever, because you know what? These aren't the people who start fights! Most Martial Arts trainees don't start fights!
You will probably NEVER have to defend yourself against a martial artist on the street or in any social-gathering situation!
Most of the "ones" I have faced were drunken idiots with a chip on their shoulder and lots of muscle, but minimal skills.
About the cups...I don't wear one walking down the street, I don't wear one playing in bars or going out, nor pads of any kind.
My point was that these things are used in "sparring" where both sides are whacking away in a consentual format.
In a real attack you won't have these conveniences, and it probably won't be a three-minute match with tap-out available.
I respect boxers and sparrers and I acknowledge the athletic and psychological challenges involved.
I also acknowledge the practise of sport Uechi and I said before it can be taught as a sport or as a self defense art.
Different disciplines apply.
I couldn't possibly strap on a huge outfit of body pad, gloves, etc. and then go out and trade whacks for three minute rounds -- but I greatly respect the ability of those who can.
In fact I think it's amazing.
But I couldn't do it, and I admit that.
I've never trained for it, and don't really think I'd want to.
That's just me.
What I'd much rather do is learn how to lay someone out in a real street-clothes encounter in a simulated-realistic situation. I've done lots of this.
I've also done some "non-simulated" if you know what I mean...and seen LOTS of it first hand.
It sure doesn't look like a sparring match.
My personal interest in Uechi is using and training the principles for personal self defense, not competition. This is just my personal goal and I'm lucky to have found a path that seems to be taking me there.
There is no "Good Luck" involved. It's more a matter of preparation for chaos, as I see it.
Half-developed boxing skills are no answer for half-developed Uechi skills.
NM
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Ab Drills
Thanks for the input 2 Green. To me it's refreshing to find out what's going on in other dojo and that everyone's Uechi toolbox is not the same.
There's so much negative flack about Uechi not being progressive when the fact of the matter is that the critics are harnessed by their own time warp and horse collar.
Nakamatsu Sensei is a physicist who teaches science in the Okinawan high schools. He's applied his understanding of body mechanics, energy and force to his kata and his sparring instruction. In addition, he's somewhat of a philosopher who believes the way to the top is through the purposeful direction of the human heart.
Uechi is the composite skills, techniques and principles of it's premier practitioners in addition to the foundation core materials. The top Uechi people, like Alan Dollar, for just an example, find all the tools and principles they need with their progressive study of the style to make their Uechi effective without chucking the baby with the bathwater.
The conditioning drill I wrote about comes as much from Mui Thai as from boxing and Uechi but the principles of delivering multiple techniques, sound conditioning, pressing the opponent and tension stepping are true Uechi.
The diamonds are in your own backyard. There are teachers and trainers in Uechi as skilled and as talented and as effective as are the proponents of the myriad other martial arts that some students seek out.
There's so much negative flack about Uechi not being progressive when the fact of the matter is that the critics are harnessed by their own time warp and horse collar.
Uechi is much more than the foundation kata and drills. Progressive teachers like Nakamatsu Ken Sensei have trained dominant competators in the All Okinawan Championships, the premier worldwide venue for sport karate in the 1980's and 1990's. "All Okinawan" was not limited to Uechi stylists but all the Okinawan Karate styles were represented by a large body of international fighters, not just from Japan and Okinawa. The American local favorites stayed home. And they missed the evolution of the style by disassociating themselves from their Uechi roots.Does the style evolve?
Nakamatsu Sensei is a physicist who teaches science in the Okinawan high schools. He's applied his understanding of body mechanics, energy and force to his kata and his sparring instruction. In addition, he's somewhat of a philosopher who believes the way to the top is through the purposeful direction of the human heart.
Uechi is the composite skills, techniques and principles of it's premier practitioners in addition to the foundation core materials. The top Uechi people, like Alan Dollar, for just an example, find all the tools and principles they need with their progressive study of the style to make their Uechi effective without chucking the baby with the bathwater.
The conditioning drill I wrote about comes as much from Mui Thai as from boxing and Uechi but the principles of delivering multiple techniques, sound conditioning, pressing the opponent and tension stepping are true Uechi.
The diamonds are in your own backyard. There are teachers and trainers in Uechi as skilled and as talented and as effective as are the proponents of the myriad other martial arts that some students seek out.
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Well stated John...
Wish more teachers had your open minded attitude about Uechi - seeing the possibilities and allowing their Uechi to evolve and flourish!
GEM
"Do or do not. there is no try!"
"Do or do not. there is no try!"
" No, I have not faced a Muay-Tai or whatever, because you know what? These aren't the people who start fights! Most Martial Arts trainees don't start fights!"
Not even close to being the truth. Trained fighters get into trouble all the time. Read the paper. I've even seen a boxer in the ring with his ankle bracelet tucked in his boot!
"What I'd much rather do is learn how to lay someone out in a real street-clothes encounter in a simulated-realistic situation. I've done lots of this.
I've also done some "non-simulated" if you know what I mean...and seen LOTS of it first hand.
It sure doesn't look like a sparring match."
Yeah I've seen lots of real fights in real life. It looks like a low quality MMA match. Here's my point. People who don't wear protective gear don't train with REAL HARD contact and aren't used to getting hit. They don't train vs hard shots to the head, because they don't use equipment. They develop very bad habits like holding their hands low because they groove to each other with that lame point fighting like sparring most dojos do. For some reason many on this list like to argue against full contact sparring with gear and then try to say they are training in a more realistic fashion. You're kidding yourself.
"It's more a matter of preparation for chaos" Ha, ha, ha, ha! By not really fighting each other with gear on? By not striking to the most likely place people are going to try and hit you, to the head? I can already hear some people saying, "oh we do strike to the head", yeah well not if you don't allow contact. No contact, you're just goofing. Shoots are thrown at a different speed, intensity and fear becomes more of a factor. Don't believe me? Play with somebody who trains with a lots of contact.
Know what I really think? People who don't have active competitive fighters in their dojo probably can't fight. Play hard with striking, you must wear gear. Don't wear gear, you're not striking hard (or it's so prearranged it's useless).
Ah well. I'm wasting my time. We're not going to change each others minds.
Not even close to being the truth. Trained fighters get into trouble all the time. Read the paper. I've even seen a boxer in the ring with his ankle bracelet tucked in his boot!
"What I'd much rather do is learn how to lay someone out in a real street-clothes encounter in a simulated-realistic situation. I've done lots of this.
I've also done some "non-simulated" if you know what I mean...and seen LOTS of it first hand.
It sure doesn't look like a sparring match."
Yeah I've seen lots of real fights in real life. It looks like a low quality MMA match. Here's my point. People who don't wear protective gear don't train with REAL HARD contact and aren't used to getting hit. They don't train vs hard shots to the head, because they don't use equipment. They develop very bad habits like holding their hands low because they groove to each other with that lame point fighting like sparring most dojos do. For some reason many on this list like to argue against full contact sparring with gear and then try to say they are training in a more realistic fashion. You're kidding yourself.
"It's more a matter of preparation for chaos" Ha, ha, ha, ha! By not really fighting each other with gear on? By not striking to the most likely place people are going to try and hit you, to the head? I can already hear some people saying, "oh we do strike to the head", yeah well not if you don't allow contact. No contact, you're just goofing. Shoots are thrown at a different speed, intensity and fear becomes more of a factor. Don't believe me? Play with somebody who trains with a lots of contact.
Know what I really think? People who don't have active competitive fighters in their dojo probably can't fight. Play hard with striking, you must wear gear. Don't wear gear, you're not striking hard (or it's so prearranged it's useless).
Ah well. I'm wasting my time. We're not going to change each others minds.
Hey Eric:
Thanks for the feedback.
What I'm thinking is that perhaps we have had "opposite" experiences.
You've seen awesome exchanges/matches with padded-up competitors. All the ones I've seen were lame, lame lame.
I've seen awesome matches between non-padded competitors, the ones you've seen were pitty-pat, maybe?
With no gear you've got to be super-guarded and super-careful, like in a real fight. You can't go in swinging all kinds of "killer shots" just because you're protected by three inches of foam rubber in the real world.
There are all kinds of things that padding and gloves facilitate that could not happen in the real world.
I mean, Mike Tyson broke his hand on a street corner in a fight!
In hockey and football the padded uniform is the weapon that allows the incredible superhuman contact...and they STILL get hurt!
Boxers wear gloves to PROTECT their hands and make a nice long fight. How long would a gloveless match last?
Anyway, I think these factors are what make sparring what it is.I'd be interested in your comments about "non-gear" matches you've seen and how they went down.
I respect your opinions.
NM
Thanks for the feedback.
What I'm thinking is that perhaps we have had "opposite" experiences.
You've seen awesome exchanges/matches with padded-up competitors. All the ones I've seen were lame, lame lame.
I've seen awesome matches between non-padded competitors, the ones you've seen were pitty-pat, maybe?
With no gear you've got to be super-guarded and super-careful, like in a real fight. You can't go in swinging all kinds of "killer shots" just because you're protected by three inches of foam rubber in the real world.
There are all kinds of things that padding and gloves facilitate that could not happen in the real world.
I mean, Mike Tyson broke his hand on a street corner in a fight!
In hockey and football the padded uniform is the weapon that allows the incredible superhuman contact...and they STILL get hurt!
Boxers wear gloves to PROTECT their hands and make a nice long fight. How long would a gloveless match last?
Anyway, I think these factors are what make sparring what it is.I'd be interested in your comments about "non-gear" matches you've seen and how they went down.
I respect your opinions.
NM
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The most impressive non gear matches Ive witnessed must be Kyokushin style rules comps
those Guys are tough ....
I prefer No gear except maybe light MMA gloves to stop needless skinning of knuckles ...
However I feel gear is usefull in training as one cannot take such knocks all the time . Shins take to long to heal IMHO , the head is softer than I think ....
having said that I do a lot of conditioning without gear ...
guess I fall in the middle somewhere
those Guys are tough ....
I prefer No gear except maybe light MMA gloves to stop needless skinning of knuckles ...
However I feel gear is usefull in training as one cannot take such knocks all the time . Shins take to long to heal IMHO , the head is softer than I think ....
having said that I do a lot of conditioning without gear ...
guess I fall in the middle somewhere
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I've found most advocates of no gear don't throw full power to the head with hands. Light gloves reduce cutting around the eyes and mouth. But your bell still gets rung. that keeps everyone honest.
No matter what the venue I wear a cup....hell I train with the tickler he breaks them. I also wear a mouth guard when expecting to take lots of shots to the face. Dental work is expensive .
All my male training partners wear cups. Marcus didn't train with one at first but he eventualy saw the light. :roll Your going to get bagged frequently so why not protect them.
Other than that gear is rare. sometimes I may put someone in a chest pad and tell them to slip punches and not throw anything. Well you can only do that for so many rounds and then you just get too sore. So the protective gears allows the student to train longer. Half an hour of getting nailed in the ribs ***** even with a pad. Chest pad is handy when working entries like dracula's cap the helmet etc. it allows the aggressor to land the elbow with some body mass behind it. prefer to hit people rather than the heavy bag.
Guess I have a foot in both camps.
No matter what the venue I wear a cup....hell I train with the tickler he breaks them. I also wear a mouth guard when expecting to take lots of shots to the face. Dental work is expensive .
All my male training partners wear cups. Marcus didn't train with one at first but he eventualy saw the light. :roll Your going to get bagged frequently so why not protect them.
Other than that gear is rare. sometimes I may put someone in a chest pad and tell them to slip punches and not throw anything. Well you can only do that for so many rounds and then you just get too sore. So the protective gears allows the student to train longer. Half an hour of getting nailed in the ribs ***** even with a pad. Chest pad is handy when working entries like dracula's cap the helmet etc. it allows the aggressor to land the elbow with some body mass behind it. prefer to hit people rather than the heavy bag.
Guess I have a foot in both camps.
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The purpose of wearing gloves in these training exercises is to diffuse the impact of the punch over a larger area and aid in the conditioning process. Labor conditioned hands can really be abrasive and it's not the intent of the drills to scratch and tear. Also, the gloves protect against an inadvertant shoken or hiraken doubling your partner over if he/she hasn't yet devloped a conditioned abdominal wall.
Gear such as shinguards work both ways. I rarely wear shinguards to protect my own shins. On occassion I will wear them in drills when a "soft spot" develops on my own shins.
I have recently (I'm a slow learner) come to the realization that a strong kicker can wear shin guards and thereby protect his partner's thighs, for example, in thigh conditioning drills. The stronger kicker then doesn't have to hold back but can kick more forcefully without crumbling his partner. In this respect, gear helps in impact training giving the receiver the experience of taking a strong kick or shot without being injured.
There's also a self-defense street application in this training. Assailants are typically not going to be conditioned persons used to taking abdominal blows, kicks to the shins and/or thighs. A good short quick round house to the thigh followed up by a knee lift to the solar plexus will take the fight out of a good many attackers. Many women choose to train to become good strong low kickers.
Gear such as shinguards work both ways. I rarely wear shinguards to protect my own shins. On occassion I will wear them in drills when a "soft spot" develops on my own shins.
I have recently (I'm a slow learner)
come to the realization that a strong kicker can wear shin guards and thereby protect his partner's thighs, for example, in thigh conditioning drills. The stronger kicker then doesn't have to hold back but can kick more forcefully without crumbling his partner. In this respect, gear helps in impact training giving the receiver the experience of taking a strong kick or shot without being injured.There's also a self-defense street application in this training. Assailants are typically not going to be conditioned persons used to taking abdominal blows, kicks to the shins and/or thighs. A good short quick round house to the thigh followed up by a knee lift to the solar plexus will take the fight out of a good many attackers. Many women choose to train to become good strong low kickers.
