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david
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Post by david »

Gary,

I kinda think it is one individual JKDer who is being secretive.

There are many others willing to share techniques. Sharing a techniques with an individual doesn't endowed that person with the ability to actually perform the technique. That can only be had by practice, right... If you can do the "straight blast", it is only because you have practiced that technique or something similar to it.

Talking about sharing, Jason Silverman of Executive Edge -- a JKD based school in Quincy -- is running a two full day seminar in Boston on Feb 26 and 27, covering empty hands, grappling and stick/edge weapons. I think the "straight blast" would be included in his subcategory of "ballistic attacks." Anybody interested in this, email me and I 'll pass on the info.

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Post by Raffi Derderian »

Hi Gary,
So, you know how to do the straight blast!!!
Give me the person's name and we will banish him from all JKD activities. (just kidding)
I don't know of any JKD person that is secretive to that degree. However, I have met a lot of JKD people who feel their system is so far above everything else it gives them the right to be punks. No one local of course. And certainly no one on these forums. You can learn the straight blast and a lot of JKD from videos. So how big of a secret is that? Oh, but wait. You need a live teacher to show you the non video secrets....
BTW, Gary, David Kahn e mailed me and said your visit out in Chicago was Awesome! Nice job, guy.
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And, of course, those of us with Wing Chun/Ving Tsun/Ving Chun training have no idea how to do a Straight Blast.... Image


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Post by Brat »

Darren, it might be useful to also look at some of the styles that Bruce gleaned influence from. Bruce was a wing chun practicioner, but he also was highly influenced by western boxing, and Savate-two styles I am very familiar with. I liked Doctor's post-he had a lot of great observations.

I have known about 7 JKD stylist in my life. I have sparred with every one of them. My impression of JKD is that it was a very good idea started by a very knowledgable and gifted person. It seems that, however it was an unfinished work. This allowed for all the guys you see nowadays and the variation between individual stylists. I think, in effect, that bruce was trying to reduce the Asian martial arts to a merely scientific level.

His background was mainly in Wing Chun, which is basically the Asian equivalent of Western Boxing, with some variation in footwork and technique. This is where Bruce started and was the refernce point of his experience. Not surprising then that he studied arts which more closely corresponded with his familiarity-very mechanical systems. I think had Bruce lived long enough he would have delved into perhaps more unfamiliar forms such as Bau Gua or another "internal style" thus altering the framework of his brainchild JKD. Instead he died unexpectedly, leaving evidence of a "work in progress" as evidenced by many effective techniques such as the trapping and grappling, and totally combat irrelevent ones-the 1-3 inch punch.

Although I can never compare myself to Bruce nor would ever try, I think that he was suffering from what a lot of people who cross train do. It is very common for a person who begins to learn another style to begin to doubt the foundations of their experience. When i left Judo to learn Savate, I went through that exact phase. I thought that all I had learned in Judo was hogwash and that Savate was an extremely better method of combat. It was only later that I had to return to my earlier Judo training(not so much in technique as in philosophy)to establish a platform to solidify my Savate technique. I did the same thing with western boxing and Savate when I started that.

I have developed a style of my own that I call "Power Savate" which is a combination of the tecnical expertise of Savate with the power of western boxing. However, I would never teach someone this style without first taking them through the two individual systems that I derived mine from. The reason being is that although I have picked out the main things from each style that are important to me, other people who study the same styles will come up with different things. Maybe something that I considered "irrelevent" is something that somebody else could greatly exploit.

I would continue to study JKD, but maybe get some videos on the influential styles that Bruce used and see if you can see some similarities, and /or make critical judgements about the techniques you are learning. In the process you will find out that you are developing your own Jeet Kune Do, and thats probably what Bruce originally had in mind-aframework for people to get the most out of the martial arts experience. He just didn't live long enough to see it to fruition-sadly.
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